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Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]


...Seriously?

“All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate which would be oppression.” -Thomas Jefferson

"The great danger in republics is that the majority will not respect the rights of minority.” -James Madison
 

Who the **** said anything about marriage to kids?
 
Deuce said:
Loving v. Virginia, SCOTUS, 1967 says that marriage is a "basic civil right."

Therefore it is a right subject to equal protection challenges.
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So that would mean anybody that is not married could sue who, the Federal government, if they are not married? Would that not be an undeniable denial of one's civil rights?
 
Lonely Eternity said:
Who the **** said anything about marriage to kids?
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Hey, if we are gonna be so preposterously idiotically silly as to who can be married from your ideological viewpoint, why not just bring on the kids... try to keep up, your side is the one that is taking things to the point of ludicrously absurd, don't blame me.

You see, it is we who are the ones arguing for sanity in such cases.
 

My side is the one acting ludicrous by asking for the same civil rights that every heterosexual has while your side uses the usual ignorant crap such child molestation and humping animals fear tactics? Right. We're the ones with issues. Maybe when your side actually has a valid argument, we could take the discussion more seriously.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
So that would mean anybody that is not married could sue who, the Federal government, if they are not married? Would that not be an undeniable denial of one's civil rights?
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Wow.

That is all I can say.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Wow, got no real winning arguments so you slink down to this, huh? Nice.
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You deny the fundamental principles of our Constitution. You deny the new majority which supports same sex marriage. You deny individual rights. You deny reality. What argument can be made against your delusions? I recommend medication.
 
 
CriticalThought said:
You deny the fundamental principles of our Constitution. You deny the new majority which supports same sex marriage. You deny individual rights. You deny reality. What argument can be made against your delusions? I recommend medication.
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Where did you get that lame idea? I think we have aptly proven whose thoughts on our Constitution are delusions, those mirages taught by liberal profs just not materializing like you had thought sure they would, huh?

Self proscribing are ya? Hazardous. I would suggest not getting addicted like you have become to your false assumptions, yano? :lamo eace
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
As I said regarding polls, except for election polls...well, you can go back and read it yourself...

However, where are all those conservative pollsters you were so confidently bandying about, yet I note that you are not here citing...??
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Wow, you didn't even bother to read any of the links. Color me surprised.
 
Well, we have to get your attention somehow, since logic doesn't really attract liberals and those so rabid for what they want they can see little else, yano?

Nobody here, despite the alleged invalidity of our side's arguments, has been able to prove your side's point... kinda makes a thinking person wonder. How about you?
 

Whatever. :roll:
 

I do believe the point has been made several times for our side. The point being that there is no legal reason or interest in denying gays the civil right to get married. Your side only leave people scratching their head saying "WTF are they even jabbering about." Just the point that you had to bring up pedophiles alone shows that you have no case and only fallacies.
 

you need to take your own advice so far your not making much sense
 
Oh its been said plenty of times from our side...If the majority of the people don't want it as a part of our culture, we have no need to allow it. That is more than legal, it is the will of the people, we being the ultimate sovereigns here.

Just when are you referencing that I brought up pedophiles... not that it isn't a "valid" argument? Just because its useful, applicable and effective... and you don't like it does not make an argument against it. But you can cry about it and tears might get you sympathy from some quarters.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Well then, maybe you can make it your mission to work on making that happen? Procreation isn't the whole deal though, man...yano?
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its not part of the deal at all reproducing with one another is not required and is not required to even be possible a homosexual couple can do anything we actually do ask of a hetero sexual one to do
 

The fact that pedophiles do not equate to Homosexuals makes it invalid. I don't have to cry because your side is dying out and yeah, whether or not the majority likes it or not, it is coming because homosexuals are still protected under the Constitution of the United States. This is why your side is throwing its temper tantrum.
 


we know immediately if a woman is above a certain age she cant reproduce

which makes you a hypocrite and makes trying to ban same sex marriage on the grounds of reproductive potential unequal treatment under the law and senseless



umm get it?
 
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