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Judge blocks Trump administration's ending of legal protections for 1.1M Venezuelans and Haitians

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Judge blocks Trump administration's ending of legal protections for 1.1M Venezuelans and Haitians​

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal judge on Friday blocked the Trump administration from ending temporary legal protections that have granted more than 1 million people from Haiti and Venezuela the right to live and work in the United States.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Edward Chen of San Francisco for the plaintiffs means 600,000 Venezuelans whose temporary protections expired in April or whose protections were about to expire Sept. 10 have status to stay and work in the United States. It also keeps protections for about 500,000 Haitians.

Chen scolded Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem for revoking protections for Venezuelans and Haitians that the judge said would send them “back to conditions that are so dangerous that even the State Department advises against travel to their home countries.”

He said Noem's actions were arbitrary and capricious, and she exceeded her authority in ending protections that were extended by the Biden administration.
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I'm sure we'll be reading posts from our favorite Trump apologists that the judge is being mean to Trump.

Many actions in the Trump Admin are arbitrary and capricious. Trump wakes up on day and can't find a manilla envelope, so he doubles the tariff on the Philippines.
 
Highly unlikely the asshole liberal judge has authority to do this. There temporary status has or is about to expire. Judges are not in command of the executive branch and don't run this nation. Just another SCOTUS case to come. Democrats better hope republicans don't take a super majority in the Senate and hold on to the House because if they do there is going to be some federal judges impeached for this kind of shit.
 
When they deport the illegals, they need to send that judge with them.
 
Judges have the authority under our constitution.

ARTICLE III, Sec. 2

"The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects."
 
Judge blocks Trump administration's ending of legal protections for 1.1M Venezuelans and Haitians
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The DHS will appeal this ruling, and it will be overturned, of course.
 
"conditions that are so dangerous that even the State Department advises against travel to their home countries.”
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Didn't the felon promise to focus on deporting people with criminal records?
Is eating dogs and cats on these desperate people's criminal records?
 

Judge is from SF. Says all you need to know about that one.

A higher court will overrule this shortly.
 
The status cannot be revoked arbitrarily. The protections are extended because of conditions in their home countries. The reason they were granted protection in the first place hasn't changed. The status is of course temporary. These aren't permanent residents. When conditions change in the home countries, then their protective status can be revoked, and they can return home safely.
 
Super majority in the senate will never happen.

People in hell want some ice water too!
 
"Revoke" indicates a positive action. That's not what's happening here. They were granted a temporary status for a specific period of time, and that time is expiring. The question is whether the judge can force the administration to re-issue the protections. I don't think a court has that power - and certainly not for an entire class of people (as opposed to the ones actually represented in the case before him.)
 
You should have learned by now that these lower court rulings by activist judges have a very short shelf-life
 
The decision would seem to preempt the action.

The status is not based on time. It's based on conditions in their home countries. As these conditions can improve in a short span, there is no reason to give protective orders covering decades.

Look at it this way. A woman is given shelter from a violent husband. The shelter gives the woman 6 months, at which time the need for protection will be reexamined. If the husband is still in the home and hasn't changed, we don't send her back to the abusive situation. We extend her stay in anticipation of the husband either leaving or getting help.

Sending people back to the chaos we protected them from makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Michael Cole said:
The decision would seem to preempt the action.

The status is not based on time. It's based on conditions in their home countries. As these conditions can improve in a short span, there is no reason to give protective orders covering decades.
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The status is absolutely based on time. Again, it's granted for a very specific period - limited by the law it's granted under. In order to continue the status, it has to be re-issued. This administration - the president - has not done that. I don't think the judge can force him to do so. Not without substituting his judgement for the presidents - and he can't do that.

You are attempting to make an emotional appeal based on a bad analogy. And making an argument about what this hypothetical shelter 'should' do. This is a legal question about what the government 'shall' do. If you wanted to continue that analogy, a judge might help the woman make other arrangements, but he wouldn't force the shelter to extend it's contract with the woman.
 
bubbabgone said:
You should have learned by now that these lower court rulings by activist judges have a very short shelf-life
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The lower court judges aren't activists for following the law. The activists are the Supreme Court justices, that granted Trump, unprecedented powers, that they never granted any other president -- such as the power to close departments created by Congress.

His actions are often arbitrary, such as imposing tariffs that change daily based on his mood at the moment or putting a tariff on Brazil for prosecuting a former president for trying a coup, like what he did.
 
Michael Cole said:
It is not. A tourist visa is based on time. These protections are based on conditions in their home countries.
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It is how it works - per the underlying law. The administration makes the determination as to whether to renew the protection status - not a judge. Even from the article....

 

And who has the power to decide that the conditions in the home country has improved, and so revoke the protections?

Article I wrote the law and said Article II has that power.

There doesn't seem to be a judicial issue here that would warrant a judge to say Article III ought make that decision.
 
If you mean 9 Ketanjis would uphold the lower courts you’re probably right.
Then again, the cases were brought in those particular venues for a reason and it worked,
A short-lived talking point but it’s there for ya.
 
The thing is, all this really has to do with, is creating targets to boost deportation.

They need targets, this kind of action creates them.

It has nothing to do with right or wrong, good or bad, whether they should be here or not, looking at anyone case by case.

It’s just “look at my deportation number”.
 
dcsports said:
It is how it works
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It is not. A protective order based on conditions in their home countries is based on...









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