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Jordan Peterson vs. 20 Atheists on Morality

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Also, do you think it's more important to be a Good Person (Morality) or Good Christian (Obedience)?
 
Depends on whether you're looking for the short term benefits or for the long term benefits...
Long term benefits die when you do, the benefit was called life. Should I waste my life waiting and HOPING there is an afterlife and your long term benefits? Remember this is what you believe, not me.
 
Long term benefits die when you do, the benefit was called life. Should I waste my life waiting and HOPING there is an afterlife and your long term benefits?
Why not? How does it harm you? And if you were so concerned about wasting time, you wouldnt have 60,000 posts here
 
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Also, do you think it's more important to be a Good Person (Morality) or Good Christian (Obedience)?

Any so called Christian who voted for trump needs to check their own morality. Arrogant sons of bitches.
 
Why not? How does it harm you? And if you were so concerned about wasting time, you wouldnt have 60,000 posts here
As I've said numerous times, I was raised Catholic and did all the catholic crap for ten years and then I just couldn't take any more of the bullshit. I do not believe in gods, yours or anyone else's god. I waste my time on here and you can use yours reading the bible, deal?
 
Long term benefits die when you do, the benefit was called life. Should I waste my life waiting and HOPING there is an afterlife and your long term benefits? Remember this is what you believe, not me.
Sorry Bongs, this ain't life...not the real life God intended for us...that is what I am reaching out/looking forward to...

"Fight the fine fight of the faith; get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called and you offered the fine public declaration in front of many witnesses....safely treasuring up for themselves a fine foundation for the future, so that they may get a firm hold on the real life." 1 Timothy 6:12,19

the real life: Paul uses wording similar to that found at 1Ti 6:12, where he urged Timothy: “Get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called.” So “the real life” that Paul mentions here and “the everlasting life” apparently mean the same thing. (See study note on Joh 14:6.) Both Paul and Timothy understood that Jehovah, the Source of life, originally intended for humans to enjoy a peaceful and fulfilling life on earth forever. (Ge 1:28; 2:15-17) Compared with that, a life that is brief and full of troubles, sickness, and loss is futile and frustrating. (Job 14:1, 2; Ps 103:15, 16; Ec 1:2) These factors make both life and material possessions uncertain. Paul wanted his fellow Christians living “in the present system of things” to treasure the prospect of attaining “the real life,” eternal life full of joy and peace.—1Ti 6:17.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/54/6#s=19&study=discover
 
As I've said numerous times, I was raised Catholic and did all the catholic crap for ten years and then I just couldn't take any more of the bullshit. I do not believe in gods, yours or anyone else's god. I waste my time on here and you can use yours reading the bible, deal?
Im an atheist. But with regard to an afterlife, i really hope I am wrong. And people trusting or believing that one day they will meet a departed loved one is a tremendous way to diffuse grief and an overwhelming sense of loss.
 
Sorry Bongs, this ain't life...not the real life God intended for us...that is what I am reaching out/looking forward to...

"Fight the fine fight of the faith; get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called and you offered the fine public declaration in front of many witnesses....safely treasuring up for themselves a fine foundation for the future, so that they may get a firm hold on the real life." 1 Timothy 6:12,19

the real life: Paul uses wording similar to that found at 1Ti 6:12, where he urged Timothy: “Get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called.” So “the real life” that Paul mentions here and “the everlasting life” apparently mean the same thing. (See study note on Joh 14:6.) Both Paul and Timothy understood that Jehovah, the Source of life, originally intended for humans to enjoy a peaceful and fulfilling life on earth forever. (Ge 1:28; 2:15-17) Compared with that, a life that is brief and full of troubles, sickness, and loss is futile and frustrating. (Job 14:1, 2; Ps 103:15, 16; Ec 1:2) These factors make both life and material possessions uncertain. Paul wanted his fellow Christians living “in the present system of things” to treasure the prospect of attaining “the real life,” eternal life full of joy and peace.—1Ti 6:17.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/54/6#s=19&study=discover
If this isn't life, why do you need to die to get to your real life? You do realize no matter how many Bible quotes you throw out there, it's all still just a belief, not fact.
 
Im an atheist. But with regard to an afterlife, i really hope I am wrong. And people trusting or believing that one day they will meet a departed loved one is a tremendous way to diffuse grief and an overwhelming sense of loss.
For those folks, I hope they are right and I'm wrong. Do you know of anyone in your family or friends that have had a loved one die and someone says they appeared to me to tell me they are fine and move on with their lives. I've had that experience and I think it's a way of our brains/minds helping to ease the suffering but it's not real.
 
For those folks, I hope they are right and I'm wrong. Do you know of anyone in your family or friends that have had a loved one die and someone says they appeared to me to tell me they are fine and move on with their lives. I've had that experience and I think it's a way of our brains/minds helping to ease the suffering but it's not real.
Yes ive heard those stories from people I know. Maybe its our own minds doing it. And maybe not
 
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Also, do you think it's more important to be a Good Person (Morality) or Good Christian (Obedience)?

Being a Good Christian would be a guidebook to being a morally good person. Why do you think you have to separate the two? But being a good person doesn't necessarily make you a Christian. To be a Christian you have to accept Christ.
 
If this isn't life, why do you need to die to get to your real life? You do realize no matter how many Bible quotes you throw out there, it's all still just a belief, not fact.
Daisy cant relate to people outside her cult. Its one reason i left christianity. It wouldnt allow me to see the world and other people on their own terms. Its also unrealistic to believe that there is a single source of evil.
 
I don't think it's at all important to be good. The only needful virtue in a society is tolerance.
 
Q: What kind of a God would take Linda Ronstadt's voice?
A: None.

There is no god. That's my view and I am just as entitled to it as any believer is.

We live in the here and now. We should be good to others because it is logical. After all. We live in societies.
 
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Also, do you think it's more important to be a Good Person (Morality) or Good Christian (Obedience)?


Hiding behind videos again. What’s the matter, can’t you express your claims without doing so?
 
Hiding behind videos again. What’s the matter, can’t you express your claims without doing so?
90 minutes!
I hope the OP gets a kick back for promoting youtube videos on message boards.
 
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"In the roughly-90-minute video, Peterson debated several atheists on claims about belief in God, Christianity and atheism. About halfway through the video, one debater who said his name was "Danny," pressed Peterson on his understanding of Catholicism, as Peterson reportedly attends a Catholic Church with his wife, who converted to Catholicism last year.

When Peterson asked Danny why he was asking him about this, Danny responded, "Because you’re a Christian."

"You say that. I haven't claimed that," Peterson replied.

His answer drew laughs from the atheists. Danny retorted, "Oh, what is this? Christians versus atheists?" referring to the title of the debate.

"I don’t know," Peterson responded.

"You don’t know where you are right now?" Danny mocked, with Peterson chiding his debater to "not be a smart—."

"Either you’re a Christian or you’re not," Danny said. "Which one is it?"

Peterson refused to answer his question, replying, "I could be either of them, but I don’t have to tell you. It's private."

Danny told Peterson he was invited to debate a Christian and that Peterson must be in "the wrong YouTube video."

"You’re really quite something, aren’t you?" Peterson retorted.

"Aren’t I? But you’re really quite nothing, right? You’re not a Christian?" Danny scoffed.

Peterson ended the debate with Danny at this point."


All very strange.
 
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And? Care to make a point, or are you just advertise for Peterson?

Also, do you think it's more important to be a Good Person (Morality) or Good Christian (Obedience)?

Obviously the former. Being a "good Christian" is useless.
 
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