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Jewish schoolgirl 'terrorised' by mob in UK

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Febuary 05,2009


Schoolgirl 'terrorised' by mob | The Jewish Chronicle

Just another isolated incident. Move on, nothing here. You can return to the spot where YOU BURY YOUR ****ING HEAD IN THE SAND!
 
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No we should just say: big deal, it is youth, Should we hang the youth?
Charge them with hate crimes?


They and/or their parents/teachers have to be held responsible. It has to be investigated what is the source, where does it come from. 20 (!!!!!!!!!!) youths chanting “Kill all Jews” and “Death to people of a certain nationality or religion or race” is a demonstration of a certain sickness in the community. The community has no choice but either to fail or exterminate possiblities and sources of such an extreme.

If the community failes it has to isolated like a source of epidemics.

Arch Enemy should be charged with crimes against morality and humanity and certainly should be expelled from the community.
 



Why would you want to charge Arch Enemy with war crimes.
 
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new coup for you said:
"Brum" is a unbelievable ****hole, I'm glad to see they can add anti-Semitism to their tally of wretchedness
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Says the man from Philly....:2razz:

Birmingham(and that is pronounced Birming-hum not Birming-Ham:2wave:.) is a fine, English city, if a little big. I'd rather live there than most American cities I can think of.
 
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FWIW, the only evidence that this happened so far appears to be the testimony of a 12 year old girl who acknowledges that she was the first one to throw a punch. Let's wait for some more facts before we rush to judgment.


Also I'd be wary of declaring that members of DP should face criminal charges for daring to respond to the story in a fashion that didn't seem sympathetic enough to you. It comes across as incredibly childish.
 
I'll say one thing, the whole English thing with insulting the Brummie accent is completely the manifestation of English classism.

As an outsider (with no experience with the city, very little knowledge and no socialized prejudices) their accent sounded like...another English accent.

But Londoners will casually degrade it for various constructed reasons.

My theory: Birmingham is associated with the working class, so bourgeoisie Londoners **** on it.
 
Birmingham is quite middle class itself. It is really the Northern cities like Liverpool and Newcastle and Manchester which are the real working class bastions. There are areas in London, the famous Cockney eastend of course, and Birmginham that are more working class and obviously there are immigrant areas but it is not a stand out working class city.

I'm obviously English but I've spent quite some time in Australia and I find it strange you'd think the Brummie accents sounds like any other English accent. As far as I can tell, even though it is perhaps less obvious than a Scouser or Geordie accent, most English accents are as different from each other or almost so as they are from American or Australian accents. The steroetypical "posh" English accent is the preserve of the South-East, middle class areas mostly and is no more English than a Brummie or my own Westcountry tongue.
 

Bet you could not tell what part of America I'm from with my accent alone.
 
Wessexman said:
The only US accents I know are the Southern one and the one the rest seem to speak.
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Oh man!

You should youtube some videos of Wisconsin Accents.

Those are some funny things, lol.

Then look at some Minnesota Accents.

Those aren't as funny, but still funny, lol.

I have very little accent, but one can def. tell that I am a Southern as I prefer to use words such as "Y'all".
 
What parts of Birmingham have you been hanging out in?

I spent a summer going between Manchester and London every few weeks for work, always stopping in Birmingham for the weekend to see some friends. They lived in the Irish Quarter (Digbeth), which while full of cool bands, is basically a decaying brick and mortar sore, a testament to the crushed dreams of the post-industrial age. And, like you said, this is coming from someone who's born and raised in Philadelphia.

In fact the two cities remind me of each other, except Philly has a subway system, a real airport and the street system wasn't designed by lunatics. And the food is better (which isn't saying much).

Birmingham literally doesn't have a metro. That "Midlands Metro" toy train is crap, useless if you need to get around Birmingham itself. And why the hell would anyone want to go anywhere else in the Midlands? If I lived in Birmingham I'd have to buy a car, something you don't have to do in Manchester (although only barely).

Birmingham is a great place if you NEED to be the most punk-rock squatter on the entire planet, but I can do that in Philly too.

As for accents: you'd be hard pressed to find a bigger anglophile then myself, and I can barely tell the difference between Geordie and London, let alone distinct Midland accents.
 
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I know mostly the suburbs of Birmingham but as far as I have seen it is no more working class than London or Southampton. It is a fine city although too big.

I have never heard of Digbeth, where is that near? Most cities have depressed areas but Birmingham probably has less than London in my experience.

As for accents: you'd be hard pressed to find a bigger anglophile then myself, and I can barely tell the difference between Geordie and London, let alone distinct Midland accents.
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I think you need to listen to more English accents. They are as different as they are from Scots or American or Australian even if they have suffered on late from the depressing uniformity that inflicts the modern world.

IDEA - Dialects & Accents of England
 
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Digbeth is downtown, google maps seems to think that where Bradford and Digbeth street combine is where it is, which is about consistent with my memory.

It's not all ****, it's a very up-and-coming neighborhood, now that I've been away for a bit it's probably pretty well gentrified: but I can tell the scars of deindustrialization through any veneer of "rehabbed lofts"- i.e. abandoned factories.

When I was living there it was home to a lot of really crappy nightclubs that played extraordinarily crappy rave music, which every english person I've ever met was completely ecstatic about for some reason. "Oh you combined some midi files and a sample of some chick breathing heavily? That's brilliant man, brilliant. We're gonna put you on the cover of the NME". Luckily the people I knew were far too cool for all that.

Birmingham definitely has more then its fair share of horrible, horrible housing projects. The UK doesn't seem to have abandoned the whole "giant tower of misery" model where sad prole drones are locked into prefab mid-rises to stew in each others failure. In the US we've started building little villages of two and three story duplexes in our housing projects, they're much less miserable.

Anyway...I'm not totally convinced Scots actually speak English. I think the educated ones do, but only because they were taught it in school as a second language.

Me: "Hello."

Scotsman: "Aff! Dinekekenk aeoagh oe?! Givisfiver? Aff!"

Me: Can we get this guy some subtitles?

I've always been able to at least understand what English people are saying.
 
Those are the poorer areas you are talking about, there relics of the 60s and inhabited mostly by immigrants and chavs. They even have them in Southhampton and Bournemouth. As far as I have seen though most of Birmingham is not like that, at least the suburban and the CBD areas, it rivals what I have seen of London and is a good deal better than Manchester or Newcastle..


Have you ever been to a pub in a little village in Dorset, Devon or Somerset though?
 
RightinNYC said:
--snip-- Let's wait for some more facts before we rush to judgment --snip--
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There's some interesting history here with the young girl in question. She may be the only jewish student but she's quite the activist.


Protests at Birmingham school

As for this -
YOU BURY YOUR ****ING HEAD IN THE SAND!
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The police are dealing with it - freedom of speech in the UK does not allow race hate - something I believe is freely allowed under the US constitution so the police are dealing with it. The story isn't over yet.
 
It amazes me how blind some American's are. Here we have an American slamming Europe for anti-semitism and yet what about the same thing in the US? Is it worse or better or the same?

Lets see..

ADL Shocked and Distressed Over "Hit a Jew Day" at St. Louis Middle School

A school holding "hit a Jew day"

ADL Decries the Anti-Semitic Vandalism of Five Jewish Institutions in Chicago

Vandalism in Chicago

ADL Decries Molotov Cocktail Thrown at North Side Temple Sholom

Firebombing of a Jewish target

Mainstream Web Sites Flooded with Anti-Semitic Comments in Wake of Madoff Scandal

Massive anti-semitic backlash due to the Maddof scandal.

ADL Denounces Anti-Semitic Graffiti Targeting the Brookline Community

Anti-semetic graffiti.

And that is just a handful. Should we add racist attacks based on skin colour, religion or country too?

Anti-semetism is on the rise around the world because of the actions of the state of Israel. Denying this is sticking your head in the ground and not admitting there is a problem with Israel or/and the racist freaks who promote this irrational hatred against Jews... or blacks, Muslims, Hispanics or what ever minority that the brain-dead fancy to attack and use to blame for their own problems.
 


What else needs to be proven to come to the verdict that RNYC is guilty of the crimes?
It is given (self-evident with no need of remarks) that it has to be investigated in a fair and a deliberate investigation to see how much truth is in the accusation. Who is going to do that and how? Since members have no ability to investigate the community, all they are left with is to demonstrate their moral standings under the assumption –‘’ if it is confirmed’’, especially if there is no evidence or moral reasons to assume the otherwise, especially if there has been no call to be sympathetic to Jewish, but to all nationalities, races and religions. As usual RNYC and CC come at the bottom of moral, - and not on the bottom, but under the bottom, in the dirt, in the breeding grounds of racism and fascism. It also happens when a primitive tries to play a savvy – in the same grounds.
 
PeteEU said:
Anti-semetism is on the rise around the world because of the actions of the state of Israel.
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A Jew moves, - Anti-semitism rises. A Jew does not move Anti-semitism levels down. A good Jew is a dead Jew, - does not move, no activity,- no Anti-semitism, no problem.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Why would you want to charge Arch Enemy with war crimes.
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The long service to the community as a metal band certainly should be taken in the consideration at sentencing, but it does not protect from the law.
 
SgtRock said:
Febuary 05,2009



Schoolgirl 'terrorised' by mob | The Jewish Chronicle

Just another isolated incident. Move on, nothing here. You can return to the spot where YOU BURY YOUR ****ING HEAD IN THE SAND!
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There's no question that anti-semitic incidents rise whenever Israel is involved in yet another war with its neighbors. I'd be a complete blind idiot to try and deny that. However, it doesn't become rampant and trying to make it appear so is dishonest.

This incident will be dealt with by the authorities, as are all other reported incidents. That's the easy part. The hard part is in trying to find ways to lower these incidents to almost zero. Teaching communities who have an almost inborn hatred of each other to tolerate each other without ever resorting to violence is a daunting task.
 

People got pissed at Madoff because of the actions of the state of Israel? Who knew...


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