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It's over in Alaska (which is Russia not the United States), Trump got rolled

GR! said:
anyone who says "Trumps is Putin's Manchurian Candidate." can't be taken seriously.
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Not sure I care if some newbie rando takes me seriously.
 
GR! said:
It's been HUGELY established Ukraine can NOT defeat the Russian military. It must be easy for you to sit behind a keyboard while thousands of people are getting killed everyday. Not a speak of dust on you.
The ENTIRE world wants the war to end.
The previous administration financed more death and destruction.
Face it....nothing the Trump administration does will satisfy you. The left (and the media they control) has dehumanized Trump and his administration to the point that stopping a war is considered a threat to our democracy.
It's insane..either you want a peaceful solution or you want more dead civilians.
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Where is the HUGE establishment that Ukraine can NOT defeat the Russian military? Links?
 
Roadvirus said:
Okay.

"Trump is Putzin's bitch"

Better?
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TDS is a mental disorder. I should know better than trying to have a rational discussion with people who suffer from TDS.
In reality Trump is your President and the Commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces.
Again...what you are doing is driving away votes for the Democrat Party. That's a good thing for the country.
 
Demon said:
Where is the HUGE establishment that Ukraine can NOT defeat the Russian military? Links?
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Open your eyes and ears to real news. It's why the European countries are sitting in with Trump and Zelenskyy to come up with a solution.
As of today do you want the fighting to end or continue?

Ukraine Can’t Win the War (2022)​

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/
 
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Demon said:
Being sued over an edited interview (pretty standard practice) of someone else is hardly the same as being sued for your on air 'talent's' lying.

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The main point....They settled with Trump....and lawsuits against news networks isn't unusual.....but if it's Fox News it's a different story for some reason. Fox News has a larger audience and beats the crap out of the other cable news networks aka Fake News.
Do you trust MSNBC?...oh wait....they changed it to MSNOW. Maybe now they'll stop calling everyone who isn't a die hard left wing radical liberal.....racist. America is sick of it.
 
GR! said:
Open your eyes and ears to real news. It's why the European countries are sitting in with Trump and Zelenskyy to come up with a solution.
As of today do you want the fighting to end or continue?

Ukraine Can’t Win the War (2022)​

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/
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What's the date on that opinion piece? Doesn't matter, Ukraine appears to be holding their own.
 
GR! said:
The main point....They settled with Trump....and lawsuits against news networks isn't unusual.....but if it's Fox News it's a different story for some reason. Fox News has a larger audience and beats the crap out of the other cable news networks aka Fake News.
Do you trust MSNBC?...oh wait....they changed it to MSNOW. Maybe now they'll stop calling everyone who isn't a die hard left wing radical liberal.....racist. America is sick of it.
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Faux news IS a different story because they were sued for lies their talking heads put out on air.
 
GR! said:
Open your eyes and ears to real news. It's why the European countries are sitting in with Trump and Zelenskyy to come up with a solution.
As of today do you want the fighting to end or continue?

Ukraine Can’t Win the War (2022)​

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/
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They're trying to keep Trump from throwing in with Putin, a man he seems to have an inordinate affection for, wouldn't you say?


That works both ways.

time.com

Putin Boasts of Being Able to Take Kiev in 2 Weeks

The Kremlin doesn’t deny the stakes-raising comment but says it was taken out of context
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GR! said:
Open your eyes and ears to real news. It's why the European countries are sitting in with Trump and Zelenskyy to come up with a solution.
As of today do you want the fighting to end or continue?

Ukraine Can’t Win the War (2022)​

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/
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Hey thanks for that. Even back in 2022, Putin was pretending to want to have peace talks.

The Biden Administration has a strong incentive to test President Vladimir
Putin on the sincerity or insincerity of his statements that Russia is ready for
peace talks. A successful peace process would undoubtedly involve some
painful concessions by Ukraine and the West. Yet the pain would be more
emotional than practical, and a peace settlement would have to involve
Putin giving up the plan with which he began the war, to turn the whole of
Ukraine into a Russian vassal state, and recognizing the territorial integrity
of Ukraine within its de facto present borders.
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No one took him seriously back then.

He's been bombing like threefold since Trump came in office...so really, no one should take him seriously now.

Putin does not want peace, he wants Ukraine.
 
Demon said:
Faux news IS a different story because they were sued for lies their talking heads put out on air.
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Fox was sued a long time ago and settled. Far more recently Trump is suing the hell out of fake news and is wining 10 of millions from ABC and CBS...
Fox still has the biggest audience because most people who watch cable news watch Fox News. MSNBC is a propaganda machine as is CNN.
 
GR! said:
Fox was sued a long time ago and settled. Far more recently Trump is suing the hell out of fake news and is wining 10 of millions from ABC and CBS...
Fox still has the biggest audience because most people who watch cable news watch Fox News. MSNBC is a propaganda machine as is CNN.
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And so because they settled means they're now always telling the truth?
 
j brown's body said:
They're trying to keep Trump from throwing in with Putin, a man he seems to have an inordinate affection for, wouldn't you say?


That works both ways.

time.com

Putin Boasts of Being Able to Take Kiev in 2 Weeks

The Kremlin doesn’t deny the stakes-raising comment but says it was taken out of context
time.com time.com

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inordinate affection? I've been hearing this for 10 years. No....I'm not convinced it's "affection".....a talking point often used on The View and MSNBC. BTW it seems every time Trump wants a face too face with leaders who aren't friendly to America it's construed as "affection" instead of diplomacy by the left. Trump can't do anything right according to the left and fake news.
The previous administration didn't try to come up with a solution. Obama and Biden did nothing to bring peace to Ukraine.
 
Demon said:
And so because they settled means they're now always telling the truth?
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I didn't say that but go to FoxNews today and point out something that isn't true. I'm betting you don't watch Fox News but you seem to believe they are less likely to tell the truth than the other failing cable news shows. That's not real. ALL cable news uses an entertainment recipe and they are bound to exaggerate or even lie to demonize Trump to gain viewers. (it isn't working very well).
Trump is always the #1 focus of all fake news combined.....even when he wasn't in office.
 
GR! said:
I didn't say that but go to FoxNews today and point out something that isn't true. I'm betting you don't watch Fox News but you seem to believe they are less likely to tell the truth than the other failing cable news shows. That's not real. ALL cable news uses an entertainment recipe and they are bound to exaggerate or even lie to demonize Trump to gain viewers. (it isn't working very well).
Trump is always the #1 focus of all fake news combined.....even when he wasn't in office.
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I think having to pay out $787 million dollars for lying means that yes, they are less likely to tell the truth.
 
Demon said:
I think having to pay out $787 million dollars for lying means that yes, they are less likely to tell the truth.
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Will you take up my offer and go to FoxNews....then point out something that isn't true? www.foxnews.com
 
GR! said:
Will you take up my offer and go to FoxNews....then point out something that isn't true? www.foxnews.com
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I've watched Faux before. I see no need to watch them anymore. Why would I go to watch a network that had to pay out so much (and fire Carlson)? Why give a lying network any more viewer numbers?
 
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Trump was pointing out that Putin made a concession by coming here for the meeting. He says he didn't want to (fear of arrest?)

So your move Zelensky. :rolleyes:
 
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