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It Turns Out that Obama HAS Been a Great President

Complete repudiation of the left. With the ironic exception of Obama himself. I'm starting to think that Romney ran a horrible campaign.
 
Governors down 35%

I think I heard only 15 states have D governors now..

That tells me that the states are getting fed up and the EC did its job..
 
Wow..

And they have been screaming at us that Trump is the end of the R party this whole time..
 
Orly? said:
Wow..

And they have been screaming at us that Trump is the end of the R party this whole time..
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It is

Trump is not a traditional republican. It is now the anti trade party, one that to continue with the support it gained be for the working class rather then business. That is a big change from when I was growing up.

Democrats were the party for the people and Republicans were the party for business. Of course republicans will continue to be against unions and the lives of working people will drop as unions decline as they have since the 80s with the drastic decline of unions.

There is a connection I believe between the decline in unions and a decline in working class Americans standard of living and their quality of jobs. But of course people will not find that connection, believing unions were responsible despite being weaker now then they have been for what 60 years.
 
Orly? said:
Wow..

And they have been screaming at us that Trump is the end of the R party this whole time..
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That was just a diversion to keep the ill informed and weak of mind occupied while the Democrats whither and die. A good diversion.
 
The Democrats will be back one day. But as for right NOW, as I said in another thread . . .

In the 8 years of Obama, the Democrats lost control of local, state, Congressional, and White House offices at a level unprecedented in history. Republicans will control both houses of Congress, the White House, and be able to make key appointments to the Supreme Court, replacing likely retirements of liberal Justices. Republicans now have 33 governorships and total control of 37 state legislatures, with partial control of 8 more. All told, Republicans have total control in 25 states, compared to the Democrats' 5.

And here's the real kicker -- if the Democrats lose control of their house in even ONE state legislature where they share control with the Republicans, which is likely to happen 2018, the Republicans will control enough state legislatures that they can actually pass and ratify Constitutional amendments at will, and the Democrats wouldn't be able to stop them. That has never been the case in the entire history of the country.

So, right now, the Democrats are literally the losing-est party in the history of the United States. And all of that happened in the last 6 years, almost exclusively because the Democrats rammed Obamacare through Congress without a single Repubican vote. It was the biggest mistake the Democrats have made in the history of their party. Second biggest was probably rigging their primary to run Hillary.

This does NOT happen to the party of a successful President. Obama's legacy will be the decimation of the Democratic Party. And when I say "decimation," I almost mean it in its literal sense, "to reduce to 1/10th."
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
It is

Trump is not a traditional republican. It is now the anti trade party, one that to continue with the support it gained be for the working class rather then business. That is a big change from when I was growing up.

Democrats were the party for the people and Republicans were the party for business. Of course republicans will continue to be against unions and the lives of working people will drop as unions decline as they have since the 80s with the drastic decline of unions.

There is a connection I believe between the decline in unions and a decline in working class Americans standard of living and their quality of jobs. But of course people will not find that connection, believing unions were responsible despite being weaker now then they have been for what 60 years.
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trump is a registered democrat
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
It is

Trump is not a traditional republican. It is now the anti trade party, one that to continue with the support it gained be for the working class rather then business. That is a big change from when I was growing up.

Democrats were the party for the people and Republicans were the party for business. Of course republicans will continue to be against unions and the lives of working people will drop as unions decline as they have since the 80s with the drastic decline of unions.

There is a connection I believe between the decline in unions and a decline in working class Americans standard of living and their quality of jobs. But of course people will not find that connection, believing unions were responsible despite being weaker now then they have been for what 60 years.
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No...it's not the anti trade party.

There is a decline in unions because the businesses the unions relied on are now building things overseas.
 
RetiredUSN said:
No...it's not the anti trade party.

There is a decline in unions because the businesses the unions relied on are now building things overseas.
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They are building things over seas and importing them here, in part to trade policies that encourage it. Trump has stated, unsure if he will follow through with drastically changing those policies (Ie Nafta, TPP)
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
They are building things over seas and importing them here, in part to trade policies that encourage it. Trump has stated, unsure if he will follow through with drastically changing those policies (Ie Nafta, TPP)
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I want to see if Trump actually renegotiates any of this.

China needs to be put in place, but not take a back seat. What they are getting away with right now hurts everyone with currency manipulation, and the demands they place on American companies that make things in within it's borders.

Not to mention intellectual property theft, and a disregard of patents.
 
TobyOne said:
Complete repudiation of the left. With the ironic exception of Obama himself. I'm starting to think that Romney ran a horrible campaign.
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I thought he ran a decent campaign, he was just an establishment guy with "Romneycare" on his resume that many Conservatives couldn't get excited about. He was a much better speaker and debater than Trump, but I don't think anyone expected much to change in Washington with him running the show.
 
I feel like the Democrat party will throw a tantrum for a little while, then settle down to pick up the pieces and realize that they can't continue to attempt to intimidate the right by demonizing them as sexist, racists, etc...and that they really need to change who they are. I feel like instead of seeing experienced politicians like Warren or Castro run for president next time, you may see someone like Mark Cuban, as the country will be too far right for them at that point. Well, it's too far right now, but if Trump and Congress have success, then forget about it.
 
Yea, the country is dumb like that. I'm not a democrat, nor am I liberal, but I'll take that over the GOP and conservative politicians as if my life depended on it.

How quickly people forget. The Bush era already departed their memories. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the ****show.
 
LowDown said:
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That happens every cycle, usually the party in power loses support while the opposition gains. It is voter fatigue, where the get tired of the bs the party in power provides, and votes the opposition expecting change, however it never changes and is a repeating cycles, hence why often a party never holds the white house more than 8 years.
 
TobyOne said:
Complete repudiation of the left. With the ironic exception of Obama himself. I'm starting to think that Romney ran a horrible campaign.
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Or more probably Trump ran an excellent one.
 
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