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It Must Really Suck For You People

Just where do you think 'reality' exists? In the last Trump Administration that 76 million voters are hoping for?
 
Luce said:
Yes, and therefore Trump's comments are fine with you? Grab the guns and then worry about due process?

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You mean Trump is going to go into individual states and grab guns from those he doesn't like?
Has that been done before?
What authority does he have to do that?
 

Has the sky already started to fall on you?
You must really be worried about something that has not yet happened.

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jaypatriot said:
You mean Trump is going to go into individual states and grab guns from those he doesn't like?
Has that been done before?
What authority does he have to do that?
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I'll just put you down as being okay with guns grabbed prior to due process.
 
jaypatriot said:
Just where do you think 'reality' exists? In the last Trump Administration that 76 million voters are hoping for?
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I live, and made my living, in a world at street level where one had to deal in realities as its results were constantly in your face with real life and death consequences.

It forces its terms with instant costs for being wrong. So it’s not got a lot of wiggle room for playing with “alternative” perceptions. It DISCERN or lose something important to you. Like a limb, or a life.

When even if it’s bad it’s not that bad, like how we live and have lived for some time, we get fat and lazy. Lots of room for “alternative” perspectives because the costs are both delayed and not life or limb costing. They can be, and likely will be, at some point. You can’t keep making these mistakes. They are cumulative and eventually it costs in very real terms you can feel in very real time.

jaypatriot said:
Just where do you think 'reality' exists? In the last Trump Administration that 76 million voters are hoping for?
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I think people can reach a point of such disillusionment that it blurs their perception for the want of something better that seems out of reach by anything other than the reality that disillusions them. They reach for the easier solution in the “alternative” rather than the harder decision; to fix the reality. It’s always easier to believe “the strong man” who says he has all the answers instead of the realization the problem is actually us and WE have to actually work to fix us.

Like a person dying of thirst in the dessert seeing an oasis that isn’t really there.

Mass illusion is possible. It’s not even all that hard. Get a big enough group leaning and it reaches critical mass and the masses tip over that edge. The rest, like myself, get dragged along. Willingly or not.
 

Why do you prescribe the success of the economy under Trumps first term as a credit to him but then turn around and put the agency on Congress in his 2nd term?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Why do you prescribe the success of the economy under Trumps first term as a credit to but then turn around and put the agency on Congress in his 2nd term?
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It's fascinating to watch trumpers praise the tRump 1.0 economy when it crashed in the fourth quarter. Maybe they want that again?
 
I don't know who is suffering from 'mass illusion'.
Is it the Dems because they lost and fear retribution.?
 
Luce said:
Damn those lefties, thinking ahead!

Worrying should be reserved for when it's too late.
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Nothing has happened yet.
If you wish to worry about a future which has not yet happened, then that is your choice.
 
Luce said:
I'll just put you down as being okay with guns grabbed prior to due process.
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Guns should be grabbed from those who pose a threat to the local population. And the threat must be recognizable and not imaginary.
Who gets to decide? The local authorities or some federal bureaucrat?
 
jaypatriot said:
Guns should be grabbed from those who pose a threat to the local population. And the threat must be recognizable and not imaginary.
Who gets to decide? The local authorities or some federal bureaucrat?
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Apparently, based on Trump's comment, anyone in any position of authority at all. Then the courts can look at it later.
 
Trump approved the ban of bump stocks.
He is not a friend of pro-gun people.
Name one time during Obama’s 8 years or Biden’s 4 years that any gun control was implemented.
That number is Zero.
These truths make your post uneducated and very, very stupid.
 
jaypatriot said:
Guns should be grabbed from those who pose a threat to the local population. And the threat must be recognizable and not imaginary.
Who gets to decide? The local authorities or some federal bureaucrat?
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Bullshit
Never happen.
 
jaypatriot said:
He cannot cancel out gun laws already on the books.
There are more than 20,000 gun laws in the country.
Those are state laws. We are a federation of 50 states,
Trump does not have unlimited power.
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He doesn't seem to have been bothered by constraints in the past.

He wants to take your guns first and worry about due process later. He said so himself.

That's what you voted for.
 
rahl said:
Well, when you say things you know aren’t true, like you did in the post I quoted, that’s called a lie.
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Prove to me that I lied. Some people are just too lazy to do the research.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Why do you prescribe the success of the economy under Trumps first term as a credit to him but then turn around and put the agency on Congress in his 2nd term?
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I did like the economy under Trump. It was unfortunate the economy was shut down by a pandemic. After the introduction of the vaccine and the return of people to work there was no question that the economy would improve. It has always done exactly that. I am hopeful congress will work with Trump to fix things. The sad truth is both parties are funded by the rich and powerful. It is what they want that most likely will be done. I hope I am wrong. Cheap labor and higher prices are exactly what the rich and powerful want and was delivered to them thanks to Biden and Harris. Not likely they will give up what they paid for.
 
Luce said:
He doesn't seem to have been bothered by constraints in the past.

He wants to take your guns first and worry about due process later. He said so himself.

That's what you voted for.
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That's why neither he nor Harris got my vote. He couldn't be trusted, and she could be.
 
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