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It Must Really Suck For You People

jaypatriot said:
He cannot cancel out gun laws already on the books.
There are more than 20,000 gun laws in the country.
Those are state laws. We are a federation of 50 states,
Trump does not have unlimited power.
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Also he has his own gun-grabbing tendencies.
 
Luce said:
Also deporting a third of our agriculture industry.

But this is what The People wanted, and I say they should get it.
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At least you accept what "The People" voted for.
We're all in it together. Even those who actually thought Kamala could be
the leader of the most powerful country in the world.
76 million Trump voters are happy that did not happen.
 
Luce said:
Also he has his own gun-grabbing tendencies.
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I won't even ask you why you believe that.
Dems/Libs will always impart evil intentions to a Republican president-elect before he even moves into the White House and has legitimate political power.
 
jaypatriot said:
At least you accept what "The People" voted for.
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Of course I do. I am a big fan of the republic. Even if that means my side loses.
jaypatriot said:
We're all in it together. Even those who actually thought Kamala could be
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I am aware of that. But it is not important that I win, just that You People lose. And you're managing that just fine among yourselves. No input from me or my side is required.
jaypatriot said:
76 million Trump voters are happy that did not happen.
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Enjoy! I know I will.
 
I hate authoritarian traitors to the Union. And there are a lot in our government right now, and there will soon be too much at one time. You'll probably understand after Jan 20th better unless you wanted authoritarian bullshit, in that case, you'll still learn why that was ****ing stupid.
 
jaypatriot said:
I won't even ask you why you believe that.
Dems/Libs will always impart evil intentions to a Republican president-elect before he even moves into the White House and has legitimate political power.
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Bumpstocks and this thing:

Did Trump Say This About Confiscating Guns and Due Process?

Red flag laws allow law enforcement agencies to act on court orders and remove guns from people considered a harm to themselves or others.
www.snopes.com

 
Why would any of this stop them from blaming Biden anyway? Remember, to MAGA Biden is at once a masterful supervillain who can steal elections without leaving a shred of evidence while also being a cognitively damaged imbecile who cannot tie his own shoes. So, of course Joe Biden in 2025 will be simultaneously a powerless loser with no influence on anything and the puppet master silently orchestrating severe inflation to hurt Trump and kill conservatives.
 


Uh huh.

Meanwhile in reality world people care about their pocket books first and foremost. Anyone naive enough to vote for a politician simply because they hold them to a higher stand than other politicians are what some refer to as knotheads.
 
So we are in agreement. Trump won; Kamala lost.
Shit happens when Democrats mis-read their public base.
The subtext is both parties want desperately to win.
The good news is the GOP won and there are no election repercussions any state has to deal with to settle who won the presidency.
 
Isn't it great, Truth Seeker, you will never again have to struggle over whether to vote for Trump or not?
What's done is done and now we get to see how he actually governs.
Paris Hilton was always good for some things. Displays of egregious porn is thankfully in her sordid past.
 

Right wing narrative: "waltzing over here"

Actual reality: Biden set records for deporting people and kept all of Trump's concentration camps open.

Once again it speaks volumes about right wingers that their main complaint about Dems is that they're not evil enough.

Meanwhile, Trump on guns: "Take the guns away first, due process later."

I think we're beginning to see with the whole Brian Thompson situation that a whole ton of working class right wingers are starting to realize that the culture war - demonizing queers, minorities, and immigrants - is here to distract you from the class war.

The working class can only be squeezed so much before they break, and the Orange one is openly attempting to turbocharge the plutocracy.

I'll have my popcorn out enjoying watching Rome burn. The Uber MAGA will be sorely disappointed when their working class heroes, who are all billionaires, are only in office to enrich themselves, and not make any of our lives better.
 

His own family members say he's insane.
 
jaypatriot said:
And what control do you think Trump has over individual state Red Flag laws?
The Snopes article you cited refers to state laws and not any non-existent federal law.
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Yes, and therefore Trump's comments are fine with you? Grab the guns and then worry about due process?

Okay.
 
Luce said:
Yes, and therefore Trump's comments are fine with you? Grab the guns and then worry about due process?

Okay.
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The gun nuts only love Trump (despite all the anti gun shit he says) because gun enthusiasm in America is coded as right-wing.

Dems are terrible on gun rights, but it's laughable/illuminating that conservatives will entrust the defense of their civil rights to a literal fascist who literally sicced the Feds on protestors who wanted cops to stop killing innocent people back in summer 2020.
 
StillBallin75 said:
The gun nuts only love Trump (despite all the anti gun shit he says) because gun enthusiasm in America is coded as right-wing.
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I'm aware. Push button A, get result B, no matter what.
Especially when he says due process should follow gun seizures.
 
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You don't get to tell me what I can or can't do.
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Spewing lies and ignorance from Faux is a bad look.

Turn it off.

Faux lied to you and they ADMITTED they lied to you.

Just turn it off.
 
dobieg said:
Uh huh.
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What? None of I stated is true? It’s all a matter of public record I can readily back up quite easily. Trump is a fraud. Even his reputation as a successful business person is one that he owes to Mark Burnett and a scripted reality TV show rather than any real business acumen. In real life he is a successful con man.

dobieg said:
Meanwhile in reality world people care about their pocket books first and foremost. Anyone naive enough to vote for a politician simply because they hold them to a higher stand than other politicians are what some refer to as knotheads.
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Who said I don’t. I’ve done nothing but point out where working and middle class wallets ought to be, but weren’t.

You’re going to find out that you working and middle class Trump supporters have shot yourself in the wallet in this, and taken your more well DISCERNING fellow working and middle class brethren along for the ride. Thanks for f’ing up my plans for an easier retirement.
 
People who vote for Trump and wave MAGA flags are not in any position to accuse anybody else of being brainwashed.

This is hypocrisy at its finest.

At least the Democrats are not marching in KKK rallies. We follow the law, and we do not attempt to force our religion on people.

Just stop.
 
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You don't get to tell me what I can or can't do.
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You do not get to force your religion on me. Keep it to yourselves.

The right can save their bullshit for the KKK rallies they attend.

Using terms that one clearly does not understand is not the mark of an educated person.

Just stop.
 
jaypatriot said:
Isn't it great, Truth Seeker, you will never again have to struggle over whether to vote for Trump or not?
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Only if he steps down in 2028, and he’s already making noises about a “third term”.


jaypatriot said:
What's done is done and now we get to see how he actually governs.
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We saw how he governed. He didn’t build a wall that Mexico didn’t pay for. He didn’t bring back factory jobs. He never built or repaired our infrastructure. He placed bozos and special interest folks in key positions that to enhance governing for their minority interests, not the majority I belong to. He tried to set the civil service back to ‘The Spoils System”. He gave a trivial, short term, fed tax cut to folks like me and granted a vastly larger and permanent one to folks in that minority special interest class.

He’s doing the same thing, but more effectively, this time and he’s not even in yet.

We KNOW Trump. He has a PUBLIC RECORD to know him by.

You violated a simple rule smart people don’t violate. “Fool us once, shame on them. Fool us twice, shame on us.” You good folks let yourself get fooled twice. Shame on you for that.

jaypatriot said:
Paris Hilton was always good for some things. Displays of egregious porn is thankfully in her sordid past.
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She trades on being famous for being famous (infamous?). No THERE, there save for what she might have picked up along the way with belated maturation. She’s a “brand”. Just as Trump is. Remove the foolish public perception of non-reality scripted for their consumption and all that’s left is the “nothing there” that is real.

You folks truly live in a world of “alternative” reality and facts. It’s make believe. It’s not real and it’s going to cost all of us.

Please learn to DISCERN the “alternative” from reality. We’ll ALL be better off for it if you do.

If you give what I said a legitimate thought I’ll thank you for it. I do, legitimately, wish well… I wish us ALL well.
 
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I don't hate Donald Trump, so no "suck" on my people part.
 
I will give what you said legitimate thought.
I will be watching Trump as closely as you will.
I am a cautious optimist because that is what Americans should be.
ALl of this pessimism, gloom-and-doom forecasting, and negativity about an Administration that has not yet assumed power is useless and until Trump makes a mistake it has no bearing on how he will
govern.
 
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