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It Must Really Suck For You People

JMB1911A1 said:
History disagrees with you.
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I hate it when I get put in this position, but it appears there was a wall before the orange traitor.

I maintain that the wall is, in and of itself, racist. It was created to keep the brown people out.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
I hate it when I get put in this position, but it appears there was a wall before the orange traitor.

I maintain that the wall is, in and of itself, racist. It was created to keep the brown people out.
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Bullshit. It was to enforce national borders. A nation that cannot enforce its borders is not a nation.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
Bullshit. It was to enforce national borders. A nation that cannot enforce its borders is not a nation.
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No, it wasn't.

Trump's companies hire more undocumented labor than most.

Have you ever considered why nobody ever talks about building a border wall between the USA and Canada?
 
It really sucks - for everyone. Some are just not aware of that yet, and some will never concede the truth of it. He was a lousy president and will be again. Donald is an awful human being; immoral, unethical, greedy, self-aggrandizing, too old, obese, and just loud. Among his many flaws include a distinct lack of mental discipline as well as a seemingly complete immunity to any sense of shame. Donald Trump represents the worst of what our system can produce. America and the world will once again suffer consequences from his anger and stupidity.


We could have been so much better.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
I am in favoring of securing both of our land borders as well as our coasts. A wall is just one tool that can be used.
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The problem with that logic, is that it doesn't work. People will go over it, under it, around it, or directly through it.

It's a waste of money.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
The problem with that logic, is that it doesn't work. People will go over it, under it, around it, or directly through it.

It's a waste of money.
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No barrier is effective. You just have to make it harder for folks. Walls can channel the criminals to areas where they are easier to apprehend.

The logic you are using is the same as people who say we should have no laws because some people ignore them. No traffic lights since some people run the red.

Absolutism is never accurate.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
The problem with that logic, is that it doesn't work. People will go over it, under it, around it, or directly through it.

It's a waste of money.
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Here is a link to a 2020 DHS report documenting the effect of the wall in reducing the flow of drugs and illegals across border sectors where constructed.

The Border Wall System is Deployed, Effective, and Disrupting Criminals and Smugglers | Homeland Security

Effective physical infrastructure works to secure our Southwest Border. Since the U.S. Border Patrol began constructing border barriers nearly 30 years ago, these barriers have proved to be a critical component in gaining operational control of the border.
www.dhs.gov

After Kim Jung Biden announced not one more foot of border wall would be built illegal immigration skyrocketed.
 
It did not work. The drugs still came in. They go under it, over it, around it, or through it.

This article was written by a republican.

Stop supporting racism.

AZRWinger said:
After Kim Jung Biden announced not one more foot of border wall would be built illegal immigration skyrocketed.
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Nonsensical right-wing blather.

Just stop.
 

I lived in California as a teenager. I traveled to Mexico many times. Let me tell you about walls and how they inconvenienced the “criminals”.

The Mexicans would line up and at a signal a couple hundred would come pouring over running north. The Border Patrol could catch a few, but most just swarmed North.

In 1984 the Olympics were held in Los Angeles. There were a lot of jokes about it. Mexico wasn’t sending a team because everyone who could run, jump, or swim was already here. There were lots of jokes, and like most things there was an element of truth.

More than a decade later I was driving Trucks and delivering a load to San Diego. The instructions said there was a concrete dock in a field. Pull up and wait.

I did, and a guy in a Pick Up showed up about fifteen minutes later. He looked at my papers and said he would be right back.

He was back in a half hour, only now the bed of the truck was filled with men. He told them what to do and they began hand unloading 40,000 pounds of plywood. They were done about an hour later.

The guy stood near me and explained going and getting day labor was cheaper than a forklift.

I didn’t care. I was paid by the mile, and the sooner I got unloaded the sooner I could start turning miles again. All I cared about was getting that trailer empty so I could report in and get my next load.

The wall didn’t slow down the people rushing the checkpoints. The criminals were willing to do hard backbreaking labor cheaply because as bad as that was, it was better than they had at home.

These were two of the stories I experienced. Just two. There isn’t enough room to tell them all.
 
Which is the plan, imported Democrat voters.
 
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