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It is vital that the U.S. destroy China within the next 20 years.

How many dead Americans are acceptable to you in your illegal land grab and occupation of Russia?

500,000.

But it isn't illegal if the U.S. Congress votes in favor of it. And they will under the right circumstances.

Haven't we been hearing Democrats for years talk about Russian interference in our elections is a hostile act?
 
500,000.

But it isn't illegal if the U.S. Congress votes in favor of it. And they will under the right circumstances.

Haven't we been hearing Democrats for years talk about Russian interference in our elections is a hostile act?
I'll assuming you will be the first one to enlist?
 
Dayton3:

So your madness widens to more countries for thermo-nuclear strikes? Russia possesses more than 10 times the known nuclear arsenal of China.
Evilroddy.

Wrong. I can copy the table from online if you want. China has about 320 strategic nuclear warheads. Russia has about 1,430.
 
500,000.

But it isn't illegal if the U.S. Congress votes in favor of it. And they will under the right circumstances.

Haven't we been hearing Democrats for years talk about Russian interference in our elections is a hostile act?

Which warrants sanctions, not invasion and occupation.
 
Wrong. I can copy the table from online if you want. China has about 320 strategic nuclear warheads. Russia has about 1,430.

They’ve got thousands more in storage. Thousands which would come out of storage and be deployed if the US began any of the bullshit you are espousing.
 
Warped reasoning? It is not even reasoning.

zyzygy:

Respectfully, no. This is bestial, predatory reasoning, albeit at the extreme end of the spectrum. However hundreds if not thousands of military planners actually do the same thing and don't get excoriated for their wickedness because it is hidden behind curtains of secrecy and classification categories. This is the cancer of militarism having metastasised out from behind the curtain for once. It is a symptom of a very pathological mindset spreading through some increasingly pathological Western societies. There are Americans having wet-dreams about killing their own fellow citizens by the millions in a left-right civil war, there are ultranationalist Russians dreaming about covering Western Eurasia in blood and steel and there are Islamist fundamentalists dreaming about bathing the Dar el Harb (the non-Islamic world) in human blood in the service of God. Dayton3 fits right in. He is very human but exceedingly inhumane - man's cruelty to man incarnate. No he fancies he can just blow up Chinese dams to kill and displace millions. It's very depressing really.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
500,000.

But it isn't illegal if the U.S. Congress votes in favor of it. And they will under the right circumstances.

Haven't we been hearing Democrats for years talk about Russian interference in our elections is a hostile act?
And do remember it took the US (wih the help of France and Nato) 5 years to "win" the war in Iraq and I believe that after the US sold out the Kurds to Turkey, Russia can call Syria a win. And now you want the US to take on Russia, China and Iran singlehanded in one sweep? Who are you? Donald Trump?
 
Wrong. I can copy the table from online if you want. China has about 320 strategic nuclear warheads. Russia has about 1,430.

Dayton3:

As usual, you're wrong. Scroll down to the table for easy contemporary historical learning.


Be well and be wiser.
Evilroddy.
 
They’ve got thousands more in storage. Thousands which would come out of storage and be deployed if the US began any of the bullshit you are espousing.

That takes time.
 

Iraq is a very poor example. The U.S. walked very softly in its war against Iraq. We could've been far more lethal and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in the first month.

That would've tapped things down pretty well.
 
Your own table verifies basically what I said.

Learn to read.

Dayton3:

No, you're ignoring non-deployed weapons and launching systems in strategic storage, which could be readily deployed in short order. You're also ignoring other older stockpiled weapon systems which could also be used with a longer lag time. Finally, China has none of its estimated 320 nuclear weapons deployed as they are dispersed and well hidden. I can read and unlike you I have taught history for more than 30 years and during the late 1980's and early 1990's volunteered my time to help instruct Canadian military officers in Soviet tactical, operational and strategic doctrine (albeit with an emphasis on ground and tactical air operations).

In short, though my knowledge may be now outdated, I know enough to know you know practically nothing regarding the realities of nuclear doctrine and the consequences of its use.

Be well and be wise.
Evilroddy.
 
Iraq is a very poor example. The U.S. walked very softly in its war against Iraq. We could've been far more lethal and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in the first month.

That would've tapped things down pretty well.
Well, Maybe you should look at the 2 big narcissistic leaders with hubris that already tried to do what you want the US to do:

Napoleon: In Spain, the guerrillas did not allow themselves to be defeated in field battles, and in Russia the great distances made his strategic speed uninteresting, so he lost...
Hitler: Started a three-front war with the UK and the United States on one side while launching an unrealistic invasion of Russia on the same time. If he hadn't, the outcome might have been very different.
And just to let you know: Truth is that the outcome of World War II was decided on the Eastern Front not on the western one: After the German capitulation at Stalingrad in early 1943 and the defeat at Kursk in the summer of the same year, the German army withdrew across the eastern front.
 
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You're from Belgian aren't you? Another irrelevant country only useful as a base to launch operations into Eastern Europe.

Well played! LOVE IT!
 

Juks:

More like Curtis LeMay and the kid from Home Alone wrapped up into one very dysfunctional package.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
So China is about to posses the world's biggest economy soon. What is the USA to do - get better at business ?

We are better at business. What we haven't been better at is treating China like the enemy it is. Believeing that normalized relations somehow would change the commies from being sick tyrants and somehow economic prospertity would begin to shape China into acting like a civilized nation was apperenlty wishing for too much. China STEALS everything from the US and the West, and we have let them do it in exchange for crappy Chinese products.
 

I've taught history far more recently. And my area of specialty is the Cold War.

And once again, "non-deployed" weapons also have another term. "not useable in the short term"
 
I've taught history far more recently. And my area of specialty is the Cold War.

And once again, "non-deployed" weapons also have another term. "not useable in the short term"

Dayton3:

Read the footnotes.

Be well and be wiser.
Evilroddy.
 
We are better at business.

By what criteria ?

Maybe you should take a look at the China-US trade deficit ?

What we haven't been better at is treating China like the enemy it is...

You mean the enemy that supplies the USA with cheap manufactured good built by cheap labor ?



Like steals what ?
 
The same back to you.
 
Dayton3:

Read the footnotes.

Like this one?

How to read this table: “Deployed strategic warheads” are those deployed on intercontinental missiles and at heavy bomber bases. “Deployed nonstrategic warheads” are those deployed on bases with operational short-range delivery systems. “Reserve/Nondeployed” warheads are those not deployed on launchers and in storage (weapons at bomber bases are considered deployed). The “military stockpile” includes active and inactive warheads that are in the custody of the military and earmarked for use by commissioned deliver vehicles. The “total inventory” includes warheads in the military stockpile as well as retired, but still intact, warheads in the queue for dismantlement. For additional guidance, see endnotes below (note: as estimates are updated, they may vary from the printed materials below).

Doesn't change anything.
 
Iraq is a very poor example. The U.S. walked very softly in its war against Iraq. We could've been far more lethal and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in the first month.

That would've tapped things down pretty well.

The Soviets tried brutalizing the population of Afghanistan to get them to stop resisting. How did that work out of them?
 
And 5,000 ABM’s can be built and emplaced instantaneously?

No that would take time.

But deploying actual nuclear warheads would ramp up international tension dramatically. Far more than NONNUCLEAR ABMs would.

And haven't you claimed ABMs won't work anyway?

Why would the Chinese or Russians start a war over an ABM system that won't work?

Try some reasoning.
 
The Soviets tried brutalizing the population of Afghanistan to get them to stop resisting. How did that work out of them?

Afghanistan is a special case. Not to mention that the Soviets never deployed an adequate number of troops there to accomplish that. At the time it was estimated it would take a minimum of 200,000 Soviet troops and possibly up to 400,000. Estimates published in U.S. News & World Report IIRC. The Soviet force topped out at about 105,000.
 
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