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Issues that Reform are strong on.

Infinite Chaos

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Reform's annual conference takes place this weekend in Birmingham, with 5,500 tickets
reportedly already sold. It is thought that one in five of the nation's lobbyists will be
there too. The party has now been ahead in the polls for five months.

Never before has a party other than Conservative or Labour been ahead in the polls
for so long. Indeed, since the party's success in English local elections in May, it has

consistently been averaging 30% to 31%, enough to put it well ahead of all its rivals.

We finally have a breakdown based on polling opinion and statistics and Reform are consistently polling in the 30% mark - way above Labour but what are the issues that make this support so unwavering?

"according to Ipsos, 68% of voters feel that the economy will get worse over the
next year, up from 43% at the time of last year's election and as high as it has
ever been a year into a new Parliament. Among those whose current party preference

is Reform, a remarkable 89% are pessimistic about the prospects for the economy."

I find this one ironic as many Brexit supporters wanted the economy to shrink so as to make the UK less appealing to migration. They gave us Brexit and I guess thought a shrinking economy would only affect immigrants?

"a record 59% are dissatisfied with the NHS. Among those who voted Reform last
year, the figure is even higher – 69%."

Also ironic as Farage is in favour of US style insurance companies having access to the NHS

"Most voters think that immigration is too high. An Opinion poll in August found
that 71% feel that way. But nearly everyone who is now backing Reform (97%) 
expresses that view."

No surprise here, the same 97% turned out in force to pull us out of the EU over immigration.

81% of those who voted Reform last year believe that migrants have undermined rather
than enriched the country's culture. Equally 73% feel that migrants have been bad for
the country's economy.

No surprise here, a huge proportion of Reform supporters think everything bad in the UK is because of foreigners, migrants and asylum seekers. None that I speak to online or in the real world are aware that Brexit put us in the situation where illegal migrants could not be returned to France as we left the EU without agreeing a successor to the Dublin III agreement.

"53% of Reform voters believe that attempts to give equal opportunities for lesbians,
gay men and bisexuals have "gone too far". Some 49% say the same of equal
opportunities for black and Asian people, while 71% express that view in the case

of transgender people."

No surprise here either, the older population does not like LGBTQ+ and think society has gone too far in including them and this applies for the majority of Reform supporters in their opinion to the black and Asian population of the UK.

"Reform voters are less supportive than other voters of virtually any measure designed
to address climate change."

A large does of climate scepticism from Reform supporters.

So there we have it based on opinion research carried out. To me, it's also become "Rebrand" rather than "Reform" as yet more former Conservatives from the Boris Johnson wing of the party seek to improve their political fortunes by joining REFORM.
 
Many Tory hotshots join Reform hoping to take over the party, not understanding Reform is not like the Tories. In Reform you can't replace the Great Leader.
 
To me, it's also become "Rebrand" rather than "Reform" as yet more former Conservatives from the Boris Johnson wing of the party seek to improve their political fortunes by joining REFORM.​



To some extent I agree with the Rebrand phenomenon. Sometimes it is argued like Trump created Maga. He did not. That far right segment was always there. It flares, then goes dormant. When reignited from dormancy it is rebranded. Today it is Maga. It was Tea Party before. It was ignited big time by Ross Perot
 
It was Tea Party before. It was ignited big time by Ross Perot

I've heard the phrase "Tea Party" but never quite understood what it was. One thing I heard often was that it was people upset that a Black President had been elected?

Ross Perot - another name I've read but not really read up about.

I'll go have a look.
 
I truly love the dynamic amongst xenophobes where they hate foreigners so much they are willing to turn their own country into an shithole place just to make everyone else feel unwelcome.
 


Its just the further right of the Republican Party. It never quite gets organised into a formal Party. It goes dormant, then gets reignited, then goes dormant again. When the Republican Party is out of Office the Republican center and left tend to go despondent, while it is the further right that comes to live and is most active.

Ross Perot was a billionnaire that can be described as a Trump precursor; nutty, but not quite as nutty. He ran as an independent in 1992, when Clinton won first term. It was a three way pitting Bush Sr, Clinton and Perot. Perot was actually doing well, then paranoia caught up with him, and he dropped out claiming Bush Sr was after him. He came back on, but the fire was gone
 

Utterly nuts. How close was he to the Presidency before he dropped out?
 
Utterly nuts. How close was he to the Presidency before he dropped out?
Perot was closer to derail either Clinton or Bush Sr than winning himself. The question was always whose voters he'd actually get a larger portion of. He was quite nutty, but not a wingnut, and usually placed himself more as a maverick outsider the right- left divide than as a flanker on either side.
 
Utterly nuts. How close was he to the Presidency before he dropped out?


Independent candidates usually do very poorly. In the single digits. Low enough to be insignificant, but enough to cost a candidate an election. The 2000 elections between Bush Jr and al Gore came down to Florida. Ralph Nader who was in the low singles in national polls took enough votes from the left to cost al Gore the elections.


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in the 2000 presidential election in Florida, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes. Nader received 97,421 votes in Florida (and Pat Buchanan and Harry Browne received 17,484 and 16,415 respectively), which led to a general consensus that Nader's campaign took enough votes from Gore in Florida to cost him the election.
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Ross Perot did rather well for an independent. At some point he was at 39%, and ahead of both Bush Sr and Bill Clinton. He had a down to earth folksy way of getting his points across which resonated. Then he woke up one morning and claimed he was being targeted and dropped out. The general conclusion by the media was that he was nuts and paranoid. He came back into the race, but the damage was done
 

I guess this is why Trump brought RFK on board? Possibly would have cost enough votes for Harris to win?
 
There aren't enough neutral videos on the two different interviews this weekend: Laura Kuenssberg and Nigel Farage (he seems to be interviewed by her every 2-3 weeks) as a contrast to the interview of Richard Tice by Nick Robinson.

Suffice it to say, Nick Robinson on Radio 4 really grilled Tice on Reform's lack of economic policy as well as Farage's enthusiasm for Liz Truss's failed budget of 2022 and Robinson's questioning is the standard of interview all politicians should face when they come to the BBC, especially as taxpayer money goes to the BBC. I don't want my licence fee paying for soft-ball interviews of any politicians.

So, referring to the OP, Reform are strongest on a tough immigration policy but incredibly weak on the economy and other issues that Tice couldn't defend yesterday.
 
When the mounting dissatisfaction of voters goes ignored and unaddressed by all major parties, it inevitably translates into a resurgence of populism, whether right, or left; the UK is a pretty textbook case of this, as is America.
 
H. Ross Perots sole purpose was to keep old man Bush from being re-elected. He had a hard on for the guy. He was never a threat to Clinton.
 
When the mounting dissatisfaction of voters goes ignored and unaddressed by all major parties, it inevitably translates into a resurgence of populism, whether right, or left; the UK is a pretty textbook case of this, as is America.



Exactly!
 
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