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I have a problem lying even when it is to protect some legitimate secret, they should just say no comment, it is probably routine to "misinform" to protect official secrets. This is wrong, but probably perfectly acceptable. Certainly not worth all the right wing craziness for the last 8 months.
Here are the relevant passages from that interview:
BOB SCHIEFFER: And joining us now, Susan Rice, the U.N. ambassador, our U.N. ambassador. Madam Ambassador, he says this is something that has been in the planning stages for months. I understand you have been saying that you think it was spontaneous? Are we not on the same page here?
SUSAN RICE (Ambassador to the United Nations): Bob, let me tell you what we understand to be the assessment at present. First of all, very importantly, as you discussed with the President, there is an investigation that the United States government will launch led by the FBI, that has begun and–
BOB SCHIEFFER (overlapping): But they are not there.
SUSAN RICE: They are not on the ground yet, but they have already begun looking at all sorts of evidence of– of various sorts already available to them and to us. And they will get on the ground and continue the investigation. So we’ll want to see the results of that investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy–
BOB SCHIEFFER: Mm-Hm.
SUSAN RICE: –sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that– in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.
BOB SCHIEFFER: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?
SUSAN RICE: We do not– we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.
But as Rice puts it herself the attacks grew out of the protest. The clear implication is they wouldn’t happened if the protests hadn’t happened first to get people all fired up. Since the protests were spontaneous then the attacks were too.
Furthermore, how is it possible for anybody to plan for a spontaneous protest to occur to cover their attack? Either it was planned or it wasn’t and as the transcripts show, Rice clearly said it wasn’t planned.
UPDATE: I’ve added video from Rice’s CBS appearance.
Actually, yes, Susan Rice did say the Benghazi attacks were spontaneous | WashingtonExaminer.com
U were saying something about Rice didn't Lie? She clearly said not planned and Spontaneous. Which we now know there was never any Protest. Nor Demonstrations and even by Testimony from Hicks and Nordstrom validated that. Nor was any of it Spontaneous.
LOL You didn't prove it was a lie, ultimately it turned out to be incorrect, but at the time she said it, it was the best assessment of the CIA.
at the time she said it, it was the best assessment of the CIA
then why was no mention made of it until saturday afternoon, some 94 pages in?
that, by the way, would be ben rhodes (whom you don't know who he is)
you don't know what you're talking about but it never stopped you before
shut up and read
Yes, the CIA did know it was planned, but the talking points were signed by the CIA. I learned today there is an FBI policy not to blame any group because it may endanger plants. Susan Rice didn't lie and this controversy is falling apart. Good night.:2razz: Try again.....she was incorrect Yeah, she was incorrect. But No, She lied. As there was nothing Spontaneous. Nothing! Plus now it is known that 2 hrs into the attack by the CIA themselves it was planned. Moreover you cant get round the fact the Libyan President even released on TV that it was a Planned attack.
Nice try tho! :roll:
Yes, the CIA did know it was planned, but the talking points were signed by the CIA. I learned today there is an FBI policy not to blame any group because it may endanger plants. Susan Rice didn't lie and this controversy is falling apart. Good night.
I believed right at first... I believe... I also belive (sic)...
Yes, the CIA did know it was planned, but the talking points were signed by the CIA. I learned today there is an FBI policy not to blame any group because it may endanger plants. Susan Rice didn't lie and this controversy is falling apart. Good night.
Susan Rice didn't lie
“Well, it was scrubbed,” Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Steve Lynch told “Fox News Sunday.” “It was totally inaccurate. There's no excuse for that. It was false information. And what they try to do is harmonize what happened in Benghazi with what happened everywhere else across the Middle East.”
Lynch also acknowledged the talking points were likely revised to reflect President Obama’s decry – with his re-election bid in the balance -- that “Al Qaeda is on the run.”
Maryland Democratic Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, also acknowledged Sunday the facts as told by Rice were wrong.
“At the time, as it turns out” the information was incorrect, he said on CBS’ “Face the Nation”
Former Ambassador Thomas Pickering, co-chair of the Benghazi Accountability Review Board, on Sunday defended the investigation into the Benghazi attacks, saying the board did not formally question former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or other high ranking officials because it didn't believe it was necessary.
“We briefed them them on the report, we told them where we were,” Pickering said on CBS'S "Face the Nation." “We had plenty of opportunity had we felt it was necessary to ask them questions. We didn’t believe that was necessary, and I don’t see any reason to do so now.”
Pressed further by host Bob Schieffer, Pickering said they did not question Clinton because they knew where the "responsibility rested" and that she had already accepted full responsibility as part her job.
Pickering also defended not questioning Clinton because the board interviewed people who attended meetings with her.
Pickering said the board's interviews were not recorded because “we didn’t feel that it was necessary for us to get essential elements of information down" through recordings, and that notes of essential points were taken instead.
Pickering said he was not invited to last week's House committee hearing on the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, though he's "fully prepared" to come at any time to discuss the accountability board's investigation.
If any of you mother****ers don't start giving me some props for my ingenious new phrase. I had better see an LOL and soon or I'm going to be very, VERY dissappointed in this forum. It's just embarrassing to have to actually fish for compliments at this level.
Yes, the CIA did know it was planned, but the talking points were signed by the CIA. I learned today there is an FBI policy not to blame any group because it may endanger plants. Susan Rice didn't lie and this controversy is falling apart. Good night.
You can deny the facts all you want. To bad the MSMedia is Team Obama's Enemy this time. Remember the word that does her in. "Spontaneous". Goodnight. :2wave:
We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently itKs annex.
It appears the entire "scandal" is the result of GOP operative editing White House emails, possibly a crime. The real question now, which the Senate needs to investigate, was were Issa and Boehner involved?
Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims
I would note that Issa is refusing to comment on the altered evidence.
It appears the entire "scandal" is the result of GOP operative editing White House emails, possibly a crime. The real question now, which the Senate needs to investigate, was were Issa and Boehner involved?
Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims
I would note that Issa is refusing to comment on the altered evidence.
So CBS, Huffpo, and the White House say the e-mails were doctored, and that's your "source"?
Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails | Drudge Retort
If it's in the drudge report it must be true.
But there's a lot of other coverage:
WH Benghazi emails have different quotes than earlier reported - CBS News
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