Does the Gaza offensive signal that the Israeli government has decided to embark on the end game? The scale of the effort—a massive aerial assault, with Israeli tanks massing along Gaza's border in evident preparation for a ground-assault—certainly suggests that. What does the "end game" mean? I quote a longtime senior Israeli defense adviser: A military effort to crush Palestinian resistance for a generation.
News Week - Israel's End Game - Dec 29, 2008
Does anyone else see compromise and diplomacy becoming more and more important to the region's stability?
I would say Israel is sick of Hamas' bull****.
Hamas' terrorist asses are about to get what they deserve.
There cannot be peace in Gaza until Hamas is destroyed.
Does anyone else see compromise and diplomacy becoming more and more important to the region's stability?
If the Hamas terrorist group, which rejects any kind of compromise with Israel, is significantly weakened or, better yet, destroyed, the position of Palestinian moderates would be strengthened.
Each time Israel kills an innocent person, their family just becomes more supportive of Hamas, or worse joins them.
If creating more terrorists is Israel's goal, their doing a good job of it with their campaign.
What profound nonsense. I see that REALITY continues to elude you.
Each time Israel kills an innocent person, it is because the terrorists have used the civilians as a shield. Earth to TheNextEra; Israeli's target terrorists, the terrorists target civilians.
Now you have the FACTS.
More terrorists can only be created by the ignorance exhibited by the West, neighboring Arab nations and the UN which continue to bury their head in the sand and pretend it is the Israeli's fault and not their own and refuse to STRONGLY condemn the actions of terrorist organizations like Hammas.
Carry on. :2wave:
While I do not agree with Hamas's views, I don't agree that pounding them into oblivion is the answer either.
Each time Israel kills an innocent person, their family just becomes more supportive of Hamas, or worse joins them.
If creating more terrorists is Israel's goal, their doing a good job of it with their campaign.
At some point every person who loses someone to violence has to decide to live again or devote their life to death and revenge. If there are those who feel this way then maybe they are already dead.
In WWII the hundreds of millions of people who lost loved ones "got over it."
Palestinians would need to decide if they wanted to pour good blood away after spilled blood.
Again, the facts are that more terrorists are being created by Israel's excessive action.
Maybe those family member's that died in 9/11 should have just "got over it" right? :roll:
Once hamas is brought to its knees and surrenders or is destroyed then the outcome will have been decided and then people will have to decide if they want their lives to be about life or death.
Please explain to me how diplomacy can work when Palestinian terrorist organizations like Hammas exist?
Shiznit770,
If the Hamas terrorist group, which rejects any kind of compromise with Israel, is significantly weakened or, better yet, destroyed, the position of Palestinian moderates would be strengthened. At a minimum, the lives of ordinary Palestinians would then have a genuine chance for improvement.
With moderates in a stronger position, then, and only then, would the chances for a diplomatic solution increase, though success still would not be assured. However, so long as Hamas remains sufficiently strong, it is in a position to thwart prospects for peace and, worse, perpetuate its radical ideology that proclaims peace with Israel an "abuse" against Islam.
I don't need to explain to you how diplomacy works. History already shows that the present strategy does nothing to help and in fact creates these pestilent groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
You don't make allies by killing the innocent civilians and Israel will never turn the civilians away from Hamas if they continue to kill innocents in large numbers.
Israel's excessive campaign is the problem.
Once again you avoid the question so I am forced to ask you again; Please explain to me how diplomacy can work when Palestinian terrorist organizations like Hammas exist?
Replace Hamas and Israel and you're a terrorist!
Contrary to popular neo-con believe, they do bring terms to the table and will not only settle for the total destruction of Israel. Its great that you can find someone to make such boasts, but the fact is Israel cannot agree to the terms because a minority of their people have settled and refuse to relocate. Until Israel can make the concessions necessary to unite Palestine, there will be no peace.
Palestine is an impoverished land without law. Hamas is not some highly organized terrorist organization like you think. They are a bunch of teenager bullies. As soon as the non-militant people of Gaza see an opportunity for change that does not involve standing up to Hamas and Israel at the same time they will take it.
The people have decided that Israel killing innocent civilians is uncalled for and have directed their anger towards them.
Hamas will not surrender nor will it be destroyed because each and everytime an innocent dies, their family sides with them.
You don't make allies by killing the innocent civilians and Israel will never turn the civilians away from Hamas if they continue to kill innocents in large numbers.
Israel's excessive campaign is the problem.
That made no sense. ... and yet bub brown-nosed it anyway!
How funny is that?
:rofl
I would say Hamas is sick of Israels' bull****.
Israels' terrorist asses are about to get what they deserve.
There cannot be peace in Gaza until Israel is destroyed.
Contrary to popular Liberal myths, the Israeli's have removed settlements and done much more than Hammas or the Palestinians have to move towards peace. Ignoring those facts makes your argument extremely weak.
Until the various groups agree that Israel has a right to exist, there can be no compromise. Until Western Nations, Arab Nations and the UN aggressively condemn the actions of Hammas and Hammas as an organization and those groups who support terrorism and the destruction of Israel, there will be no peace.
Israel is a tiny thread of a nation who had been attacked three times in it's past with NO help from the UN or Western Nations. The notion that the burden of peace rests with Israel is absurd in the extreme and can only be argued in a vacuum lacking reality and the historic FACTS.
Carry on.
I'll spell it out for you Vader.
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The following quote has been edited to explain to Vader a previously mentioned post. The underlined portions were edited by ME.
Do you see it now?
Sorry but it's true. More terrorists are being created by Israel's excessive actions. Your nonsense is thinking that killing innocents is the way to go. I see that you care nothing for life.
Showing support for a terrorist group? That isn't cool. You should be ashmed of yourself.
Israel didn't start the fight ... they finished it.
Making excuses for Hamas isn't going to change the fact that they are a terrorist group.
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