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Israeli Occupation; Hidden In Plain Sight

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I looked through many many articles that described the Hamas attack on Israel circa 7th October 2023 and the articles followed a similar pattern.

The text basically state that......................... Israel was attacked by Hamas and there were 1300 people killed, most of them civilians.

That was the standard phrasing and it is accurate, no dispute

However

The crucial phrase is............" most of them civilians"...,,,,,,,,,, thus no reference to who the others were

Well, the truth is they were armed combatants in an ongoing ( yes it was ongoing prior to that particular event) military conflict and thus legitimate military targets.

Legitimate military targets?? Yep, legitimate military targets.

Why?

Because there is , and has been for 56 years now, a Israeli military occupation of the Palestinians/Palestine

So if you want to create a perspective that seeks to ignore that, and thus remove the context for the attack itself, you phrase it how I described above.

The attack itself cannot be condoned because to attack and kill civilians is a bona fide war crime but the removal of the context is there to protect Israel from being cast, correctly, as occupiers of the Palestinian people who have the right to resist in a conflict for national liberation.

As the UN Secretary General rightly pointed out, after he had rightly denounced the Hamas attack wrt the civilian killing/targeting of civilians , the attack " didn't happen in a vacuum".

He recognized the occupation and collective punishment of Gazans as a factor, which undoubtedly it was.
 
I looked through many many articles that described the Hamas attack on Israel circa 7th October 2023 and the articles followed a similar pattern.

The text basically state that......................... Israel was attacked by Hamas and there were 1300 people killed, most of them civilians.

That was the standard phrasing and it is accurate, no dispute

However

The crucial phrase is............" most of them civilians"...,,,,,,,,,, thus no reference to who the others were

Well, the truth is they were armed combatants in an ongoing ( yes it was ongoing prior to that particular event) military conflict and thus legitimate military targets.

Legitimate military targets?? Yep, legitimate military targets.

Why?

Because there is , and has been for 56 years now, a Israeli military occupation of the Palestinians/Palestine

So if you want to create a perspective that seeks to ignore that, and thus remove the context for the attack itself, you phrase it how I described above.

The attack itself cannot be condoned because to attack and kill civilians is a bona fide war crime but the removal of the context is there to protect Israel from being cast, correctly, as occupiers of the Palestinian people who have the right to resist in a conflict for national liberation.

As the UN Secretary General rightly pointed out, after he had rightly denounced the Hamas attack wrt the civilian killing/targeting of civilians , the attack " didn't happen in a vacuum".

He recognized the occupation and collective punishment of Gazans as a factor, which undoubtedly it was.

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?
 
Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?


Weak and expected

Around 360 of those killed were either armed soldiers or armed police from the occupying power and thus legitimate targets for a resistance aimed at freeing itself from military occupation in an ongoing military conflict.

That;s just the truth of the matter.

You don't want to debate me on them, you refer to those whose killings I have already described as being the victims of war crimes instead.

Do soldiers/armed police count as legitimate targets?

Let;s see you answer this. My guess is you won't because you know I am right
 
Weak and expected

Around 360 of those killed were either armed soldiers or armed police from the occupying power and thus legitimate targets for a resistance aimed at freeing itself from military occupation in an ongoing military conflict.

That;s just the truth of the matter.

You don't want to debate me on them, you refer to those whose killings I have already described as being the victims of war crimes instead.

Do soldiers/armed police count as legitimate targets?

Let;s see you answer this. My guess is you won't because you know I am right

What I wrote:

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?



And no answers.
 
What I wrote:

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?



And no answers.
It's a straw man and thus not worthy of a reply.

Do soldiers/armed police count as legitimate targets?

Let's see how many times you can avoid answering the one question.
 
It's a straw man and thus not worthy of a reply.

Do soldiers/armed police count as legitimate targets?

Let's see how many times you can avoid answering the one question.

Bullshit.

Haven't I agreed in the past that military personnel and equipment are legitimate targets?

Why yes. Yes I have.

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?
 
Bullshit.

Haven't I agreed in the past that military personnel and equipment are legitimate targets?

So those people not killed as the result of war crimes were legitimate targets.

See we got there in the end.
 
So those people not killed as the result of war crimes were legitimate targets.

See we got there in the end.

Avoidance maneuver..

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?
 
Avoidance maneuver..

Not at all, I've already told you that the list of questions you keep spamming are a straw man.

The quotation marks are false, they are not my statements.

You can't argue that my point is wrong so you are apt to deliberately misrepresent me instead.

It's weak, badly weak.
 
Not at all, I've already told you that the list of questions you keep spamming are a straw man.

The quotation marks are false, they are not my statements.

You can't argue that my point is wrong so you are apt to deliberately misrepresent me instead.

It's weak, badly weak.

Of course it is an avoidance maneuver.

You keep truncating what you don't want to address.

Tell us again what "legitimate targets" were found in cribs.

What "legitimate targets" were found in the festival?

How did they identify these "legitimate targets" ?

Why rape "legitimate targets" ?

Why weren't "legitimate targets" allowed to surrender?

How many of these "legitimate targets" were armed?
 
Of course it is an avoidance maneuver.

You keep truncating what you don't want to address.

Ive addressed them all already wrt them being war crimes.

It's not my fault that you try to ignore that and misrepresent me, that's a you issue.
 
Ive addressed them all already wrt them being war crimes.

It's not my fault that you try to ignore that and misrepresent me, that's a you issue.

Let's take one...

In war if a soldier surrenders there is an obligation to treat that soldier humanly.

How many surrendered only to be slaughtered?
 
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