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All sides are guilty, Arabs and Israelis not to mention UK/US/International Community.
Only a fool says 1 side is innocent and the other guilty
Declaring that all sides are equally guilty because none are perfect is a sort of moralistic fornication.
Step 1 for the Palestinians: Abandon homicidal mania and overwhelming hatred as substitutes for civilized behavior and cooperative exchange.. . .
How are palestinians expected to foster a climate of goodwill in which moderate positions can be adopted under such circumstances? . . .
Step 1 for the Palestinians: Abandon homicidal mania and overwhelming hatred as substitutes for civilized behavior and cooperative exchange.
Well, considering that the Muslims had been on the offensive for centuries, it was also a necessary evil.
All sides are guilty, Arabs and Israelis not to mention UK/US/International Community.
Only a fool says 1 side is innocent and the other guilty
I think this support of Israel is decidedly unfair, They have been blockading the Gaza strip for decades now denying the Palestinians access to safe water, electricity, food and medical supplies. Not to mention the uncharged detention of hundreds of young palestinian men.
How are palestinians expected to foster a climate of goodwill in which moderate positions can be adopted under such circumstances? Israelies live in a relatively peaceful and exteremly prosperous society, Palestinians live in an impoverished society where incursions by Israeli forces are commonplace.
I realise that Zionists belive Israel is responding to 'terrorist' attacks and defending herself but the reality is that Palestine does not have and almost certainly never will have the ability to destroy Israel. Hamas's rhetoric will never become reality. The reality is that this is an extremely asymetric war. Since september 2000 Palestinians have killed 123 Israeli children, over the same time period Israeli forces have killed 1050 Palestinian children (not including indriect deaths caused by resource blockades). This when Israels population is roughly double.
The ball is in Israels court, tit for tat retaliations are simply not a viable response. Releaseing 224 prisoners who were never charged or who had never even hurt an Israeli citizen is similarly not a viable response. This conflict can only be solved if Israel allows ecenomic properity to flourish in the West Bank and Gaza strip, I think given the choice between supporting Hamas in a impossible and unwinnable war and living in peace and prosperity the choice is obvious for all to see. The reason the palestinians have not chosen the latter is that they do not have that choice at the moment.
That's what a reasonable person would assume. And you seem to be a reasonable person, Laila.
But, from your POV, what has Israel failed to do to try bringing about peace?
Israel yesterday launched its largest raid on Gaza with two waves of air attacks that killed at least 225 people and injured more than 700, according to Palestinian doctors.
Children on their way home from school and policemen parading for a graduation ceremony were the principal victims of a bloody few hours that left the territory in flames.
The short but brutal aerial blitz — codenamed Operation Cast Lead — was aimed at targets held by the Islamic fundamentalists of Hamas, which seized control of the Gaza Strip 18 months ago.
I think this support of Israel is decidedly unfair, They have been blockading the Gaza strip for decades now denying the Palestinians access to safe water, electricity, food and medical supplies. Not to mention the uncharged detention of hundreds of young palestinian men.
Everyone seems to have "forgotten" Israel's military attack on the tunnel during the ceasefire or is it just Hamas we are focusing on? :roll:
Six die in Israeli attack over Hamas 'tunnel under border to kidnap soldier' - Times Online
The Israeli military described the operation as a “pinpoint” raid to destroy a 250-metre tunnel that it said the hardline Palestinian movement was digging under the border to try to kidnap an Israeli soldier – as it did in the summer of 2006.
I think you mean defensive.
It was the Pope who declared the attack, remember and Christians coming to ME wiping out Jerusalem of Muslims and Jews and even killing Eastern Christians until "blood ran until ankle deep"
Hell, don't even try the crusades. We all know that was the era of christian barbaric behaviour. They should have taken a leaf out of Saladin's book. You see, he actually spared the settlers when Jerusalem was reconquered.
I have already stated what i'd rather like Israel to do instead of attacking civilian areas some pages back
'Reasonable person'?
Im not going to support air strikes against civilians so give up on me.
Your point is??? Bullets are not the only way to violate a cease fire
Moe
Everyone seems to have "forgotten" Israel's military attack on the tunnel during the ceasefire or is it just Hamas we are focusing on? :roll:
That's what a reasonable person would assume. And you seem to be a reasonable person, Laila.
But, from your POV, what has Israel failed to do to try bringing about peace?
I have already stated what i'd rather like Israel to do instead of attacking civilian areas some pages back
'Reasonable person'?
Im not going to support air strikes against civilians so give up on me.
What would i want Israel to do?
Show the utmost restraint, instead of dealing it themselves. Can they not call on UN or NATO to patrol between the two areas and/or station mixed armies to be placed inside Gaza? Talk to Hamas? Talk to Iran who may be able to influence Hamas? Not threaten Iran with war which may cause Iran to want to arm up Hezbollah and Hamas incase Israel does attack? Not respond in a manner which makes the world condemn them and remove any shred of sympathy with them? Re open peace talks with Arab countries brokering it again?
200 dead civilians and rockets still firing into Israel.
This attack seems to really be working
Who said all of the dead are all civilians. Did you read the link I provided? Most of the dead are security personel. NOT civilians.
200 dead civilians and rockets still firing into Israel.
This attack seems to really be working
By the way, you do realize that if the IDF was actually trying to kill civilians there would be tens of thousands dead for the same numbers of sorties flown and the same amount of ordinance dropped so far, right?
Nope, can you repost it? Or is it a few pages back?
By the way, you do realize that if the IDF was actually trying to kill civilians there would be tens of thousands dead for the same numbers of sorties flown and the same amount of ordinance dropped so far, right?
In a show of national unity, Israel's leading political parties suspended electioneering for the Feb. 10 ballot, which opinion polls forecast the right-wing Likud of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will win.
Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, the head of the ruling centrist Kadima party, called for international support against "an extremist Islamist organization ... that is being supported by Iran", Israel's arch-foe.
Israel is messin up. They dont have much land to work with compared to others so their citizens better reign their government in a bit.
270 die in ongoing Israeli strikes on Gaza - MSNBC's Top News - MSNBC.com
Their plan is going to bite them in the ass.
After all of the root of Hamas is gone then watch for people popping up uniting under people soon.
And if they don't calm soon I think it will apex soon and they will loose support quicker and quicker.
Another day would be over the fence I think. UN should step in. Their blitzkreig tactics may have further malice intended in a grand finali.
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