Sometimes I think the leaders of the world who will never lose a loved one or a leg in a war don't really understand that it isn't a game they are playing with other leaders.War is not a video game where no real people get hurt.
Explain to me when Bibi started giving a shit about people in the street.I've got my money on Iran. Preliminaries suggest Trump's bombing only set the Iranians back a few months despite Trump's lies. Majority of the world is lined up against Israel on this. Iran is 70-some times the size of Israel. There aren't enough bombs in the world to do the damage to Iran that Iran could and is doing to Israel. Iran has an endless supply of hypersonic missiles because the Iranians manufacture them underground. I've seen footage of the factories. Have you seen footage of Tel Aviv. It looks like Gaza, and the Iranians are not finished bombing by any stretch. What did Israel accomplish because getting their country bombed to sh*t? Six months from now Israel will be right back where they were 2 weeks ago, but this time staring down a dozen Iranian nuclear weapons. Smart educated Israelis are leaving. If I were going to be in one or the other I'd choose Iran in a heartbeat far as safety goes.
War's over. Iran got pasted.No, not at all. I"m not pro-Israel or Iran. I'm just pointing out the obvious: that Israelis going to lose this war.
Of course not, I just stated the historical facts.Do you honestly think any country conducts military operations with a goal of having equal casualties. Or is it just the Jews that are supposed to do that?...
I didn't ignore it, I disagree with it. And far as stated goals, Israel never stated a goal of destroying the Gaza Strip, committing genocide or slowly taking over the West Bank, yet that's what's happening....I can’t help but notice that you completely ignored the point of my post.
The decades of attacks on Israel along with the destruction of Israel being a stated goal of Iran is the reason that Israel doesn’t want them to have nuclear weapons...
You completely ignored my point; "It's easy to figure out why Iran wouldn't nuke Israel, they know the price they'd pay by the hands of both Israel and the US..."...If your neighbor was constantly throwing rocks at you and chanting he was going to murder you, would you want him to be able to buy a gun.
Well I don't believe in the inevitability of Israel's demise...I couldn't disagree with anything you said. I'm not pro_Israeli, I'm just pointing out the inevitability of Israel's demise.
The problem with that is that it is a propaganda talking point when they say it because it's an attempt to call their crimes defense. Did Nazi Germany have a right to exist and to self-defense?
What about Palestine and Iran's right to exist and to self-defense?
Can you explain how it relevant. Was the US in the wrong because during the first gulf war we killed vastly more of them then they killed of us.Of course not, I just stated the historical facts.
I didn't ignore it, I disagree with it. And far as stated goals, Israel never stated a goal of destroying the Gaza Strip, committing genocide or slowly taking over the West Bank, yet that's what's happening.
You completely ignored my point; "It's easy to figure out why Iran wouldn't nuke Israel, they know the price they'd pay by the hands of both Israel and the US..."
If your neighbor knew that if he used his gun, his house, wife and children would be destroyed, would he use it, regardless of his threats?? As I pointed out above, stated goals aren't worth the paper they're printed on. It's actions that matter, stated or not stated...
Israel is not Nazi Germany.
Yes, they both have a right to exist and self-defense.
This is my last post.Can you explain how it relevant. Was the US in the wrong because during the first gulf war we killed vastly more of them then they killed of us.
Or is this just wrong when Israel does it...
I believe it's just a matter of time before Iran possesses nukes. When they do, I don't believe Israel or Iran would accept the mutual assured destruction that would result if either used nukes against the other......Is that a chance you really would be willing to take. I bet you wouldn’t. Though I have no doubt you will pretend you would.
Cool story.This is my last post.
In the first Gulf war we didn't commit genocide, intentionally killing thousands of civilians, women, children, or withhold relief supplies. Nor did we target and significantly damage infrastructure. Israel has been turning Gaza into rubble since Oct of '23. When is enough, enough? These terrorists attacks and reprisals will not end until the two state solution is accepted by Israel. I condemn both the terrorist attacks and Israel's over the top, excessive reprisals. Or is it just wrong when Palestinians kill innocents?
I believe it's just a matter of time before Iran possesses nukes. When they do, I don't believe Israel or Iran would accept the mutual assured destruction that would result if either used nukes against the other...
Explain to me when Bibi started giving a shit about people in the street.
I hope you're right. What I wish is that Israel would wake up and realize their hawkish policies and determination to wipe out all things Muslim is hurting them badly. We need Israel as a buffer in the ME. But the Israel that exists today is not in the West's best interests.Well I don't believe in the inevitability of Israel's demise...
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