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ISIS rise surprised Obama, US intelligence

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ISIS rise surprised Obama - CNNPolitics.com

For those complaining about Trump missing intel briefings. :lol: Frankly I'm not that surprised given his initial priority was inside the borders. But the question should be asked, why wasn't it on his radar? They were JV, right?
 
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Because even having regular intelligence briefings doesn't make one omniscient. If Trump isn't interested in intel briefings, you can expect him to be surprised with considerably more frequency.
 
It was on his radar. What degree of importance that he gave it is the real question.
 
Cardinal said:
Because even having regular intelligence briefings doesn't make one omniscient. If Trump isn't interested in intel briefings, you can expect him to be surprised with considerably more frequency.
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If he didn't have his cabinet in place, you'd complain about that. Old people not getting checks, blacks dying by the thousands and starving children, among the possible allegations. I don't think he cares about satisfying his detractors.
 
American said:
If he didn't have his cabinet in place, you'd complain about that. Old people not getting checks, blacks dying by the thousands and starving children, among the possible allegations. I don't think he cares about satisfying his detractors.
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Are you really hijacking your own thread?
 
Oh I dont buy Obama's excuses at all. He was " surprised " ?

No, he was implementing his ME agenda. Under the pretense of " Democracy " he supported Ithe installation of Islamic theocracies over secular Govts.

The Egyptian Arab spring should have tipped off everyone to Obama's intentions for the ME.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
It was on his radar. What degree of importance that he gave it is the real question.
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IMO it was a low priority. Obama thought that ending the active military operations in Iraq would satisfy fundamental Islamic terrorist groups. These groups would be so thankful for this and not having to deal with Bush that they would leave the US alone. As the treat grew Obama downplayed its significance because acknowledging it would have hurt his chances for reelection. After his reelection Obama has played catch up hoping to combat the legacy of allowing ISIS to grow under his watch.
 

What was he supposed to do? Occupy the entire Middle East from Tunisia to Syria?
 

Why he might have missed it for so long?
No relevant experience and a liberal's distaste for the requirements of the nation's security. Too preoccupied with bad mouthing Guantanamo and enhanced interrogation. But that is not his fault. He was exactly, what we had expected him to be and what the people elected.
 
Obama's people didn't want to hear the truth. Maybe if they ignored it ISIS would go away.
Spies: Obama?s Brass Pressured Us to Downplay ISIS Threat - The Daily Beast
 

Harshaw said:
He does say he gets his information from the news, far more frequently than is comfortable.
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Harshaw scores a good touche! Our current POTUS has lied and used the excuse that he did not know about (insert topic here) until he turned on the TV or read a newspaper so often that it is a calling card of his. He has ignored the guidance and advise of his own military advisers pretty universally. He certainly did so in Iraq, Iran and Syria. The list goes on and this has all been well documented and reported and even the subject of a book or two. Add to that the fact that Mr. Obama has repeatedly demonstrated a penchant for getting rid of any military personal or advisers that did not agree with him lock step. Of course he has denied it but the fact of the matter is that by 2014 he had fired a record number of approximately 200 of them, there is the now infamous Politico article "Obama vs. the Generals" that detailed a lot of this too. Nothing that has happened under Obama's leadership has been his fault and as we can see by the details of the this story he won't be changing his tune any time soon. IMO his problems perceiving the threats that we face are not because he was not given good Intel and good advise, but because of his world view. How does one council a leader about radical Islamic terror threats when that leader can't even bring themselves to speak about or acknowledge radical Islamic terrorism in public? It should come as no surprise that this attitude is more than just a public one but a determined approach to dealing with the issue. So of course he was "surprised" that the JV team was a bigger threat than he surmised. :doh
 
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