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This is exactly what Barack Obama and John McCain wanted. They wanted moderate rebels to take over the Syrian government and to oust Assad. But the warmongerers insisted that we destabalize the region and oust the government; a government I might add that was fighting to save the Christians from slaughter. I recall the neocons pissing and moaning about how Christians are under attack so it is bizarre that they demand that the government that was protecting said Christians be ousted.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064645284 said:A near global coalition including the likes of Kerry and Hillary; the US has always led in world affairs until Obama became POTUS.
Now he "leads from behind" providing ISIS, a JV team, strongholds in two separate countries.
Additionally, libs just can't seem to grasp the irony of allowing a nation advanced nuclear capabilities that wishes "death to America."
Now that's really doltish, but what would one expect from the left?
I don't favor the vast majority of USFP projected by either party, but for the most part see very little difference. I don't have the partisan ambitions that you do. Occasionally, I agree with it though. Like I do with regards to Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. Iran that is at present anyway. I'm still having difficulty figuring out why it is that despite the fact that there will be six nations signatory to whatever Iran nuclear deal is agreed upon, the fringe right (and actually even some more moderates on the right) continue to frame this as though it's a unilateral Obama deal!!
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064645462 said:I have ambitions for the US to remain the most powerful country in the world to protect our interests around the globe. If that's partisan to you then so be it, I don't really care how others view my thoughts and opinions on the role of the US in the world.
I also don't care about the other countries either, because if the US was actually leading in the world, the other countries wouldn't be inclined to make a deal with Iran either.
See what happens in the world with the likes of China, the ME, and Russia when US foreign policy is weak?
Hate to break it to you kid, but the days of US global leadership are trailing off. You can't abuse power and retain it.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064645487 said:Yes it has, for almost eight years. You can't attain global leadership by leading from behind.
Hate to break it to you kid, but the days of US global leadership are trailing off. You can't abuse power and retain it.
The Real Reason the U.S. is Losing Its Dominance ? and No, It's Not the Shutdown - Mic
10 Ways America Is Losing Its Superpower Status to China
10 Ways America Is Losing Its Superpower Status to China - DailyFinance
The Decline of the West: Why America Must Prepare for the End of Dominance
The U.S. will remain powerful, yes, but the world is changing.
The Decline of the West: Why America Must Prepare for the End of Dominance - The Atlantic
At this point it appears that Syria cannot recover from all ISIS has taken from them. Even if the Syrian government somehow survives with outside help, odds are the nation will be split up into pieces anyway.
Its always interesting hearing what you'd like to be the case.
Greetings, OrphanSlug. :2wave:
Does anyone know what Russia is doing?
Greetings, OrphanSlug. :2wave:
Does anyone know what Russia is doing?
This isn't just about Obama. Expand your knowledge.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064646186 said:What you don't seem capable to comprehend is that it is about Obama and his lack of leadership.
You espouse as much bias as anyone at DP. But I don't expect you to possess the capacity for self-reflection.
Sacred cows blinded by the "Obama light" demonstrate the inability to think for themselves, as if it existed from birth.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064646186 said:What you don't seem capable to comprehend is that it is about Obama and his lack of leadership.
You espouse as much bias as anyone at DP. But I don't expect you to possess the capacity for self-reflection.
Sacred cows blinded by the "Obama light" demonstrate the inability to think for themselves, as if it existed from birth.
Yeah, and it was an internal matter for the ME. Those nations were using a scalpel. Then the U.S. declared "my wings are a hurricane" and decided to take a sledgehammer to the situation.Oh you mean after the MB, the Saud and Qatar all made the initial moves to remove Assad? Did you recall that too?
Yeah, and it was an internal matter for the ME. Those nations were using a scalpel. Then the U.S. declared "my wings are a hurricane" and decided to take a sledgehammer to the situation.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064645289 said:You mean the "warmonger" in charge of the state department at the time?
It's about Obama. No it's about the Warmongerer in the State Department. Who's it gonna be about next?Μολὼν λαβέ;1064646186 said:What you don't seem capable to comprehend is that it is about Obama and his lack of leadership.
Yeah, and it was an internal matter for the ME. Those nations were using a scalpel. Then the U.S. declared "my wings are a hurricane" and decided to take a sledgehammer to the situation.
Without external interference from a couple Arab states and the US/West, president Assad would have crushed the Islamic extremists (who fooled John McCain masquerading as "moderates") who have wrecked havoc across the country on both Christians and non Sunni Muslims alike.
How was this so....when the Suad and Qatar began supplying weapons to the Syrian Rebels/Terrorists?
It took the Syrian MB to get all the Demonstrations back up and going against Assad. Just like they did with Assad's father. That internal matter turns out was the Sunni making a play for Syria.
Do you think Isolating Iran would have damaged their Operations outside their country?
ISIS seems to be gaining a lot of momentum.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ls-half-of-Syrian-territory-monitor-says.html
More than half of Syria’s territory is now controlled by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria group after its westwards advance into the ancient city of Palmyra, a group monitoring the war said on Thursday. The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told Reuters the militant group has taken control of the city’s military air base and prison after storming them on Wednesday. ISIS followers posted a statement on Twitter saying it was in full control of the city, including the military installations, and that the retreating pro-government forces had left behind a large number of their dead.
Clashes since Wednesday had killed at least 100 pro-government fighters, the observatory said, which gains information through a network of sources on the ground. The capture of Palmyra is the first time ISIS has taken control of a city directly from the Syrian army and allied forces, which have already lost ground in the northwest and south to other insurgent groups in recent weeks. The central city, also known as Tadmur, is built alongside the remains of an oasis civilization whose colonnaded streets, temple and theatre have stood for 2,000 years
Islamic State Solidifies Foothold in Libya to Expand Reach - WSJ
in other news.....
Seems that Obama was instrumental in the rise of the JV team!
Yes. The Sauds and Qatari, the people who actually know the region, were giving weapons to the "good" rebels. The U.S. provided funding and money to "moderate" rebels who turned out to be ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
Indeed. The Islamic Caliphate is well on it's way to being formed. It's sure to export Islamic terrorism much like Al Qaeda did when it was resident in Afghanistan, only at a 100 fold.
The responsibility for the raise of ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate surely rests at Obama's and Hillary's feet. Prior to the Obama administration, both Iraq and Afghanistan were reasonably stable and reasonably secure. Only after Obama's decision to pull out the troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, only after Obama decided to inject himself into the Syrian conflict, did ISIS raise and come to prominence. It's all his and hers.
There are 60 nations in a coalition against ISIS. Some are saying that if each contributed 10K troops into theater it would wipe ISIS off the map in a week. I'm inclined to agree, but without strong US leadership to do so, we are going to have to just accept that ISIS and their Caliphate will be exporting terrorists attacks on the West in a continuous and on going manner, as their goal is to make Islam the religion that dominates all others across the planet.
Welcome to nightmare Earth.
Yeah, how John McCain hasn't been charged with treason is beyond me. He gave money and intelligence to Al-Qaida and gave key strategic information to ISIS when that duddering fool went on his "secret trip" to Syria.
Actually, they each have their unique differences, good and bad.
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