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Your claim of esoteric knowledge appears desperate.
I have a office in downtown Bakersfield. It is approximately a 500yards to the nearest trunk line for cable or fiber optic. But I cant get connection to as I am in an industrial area. So I have resorted to fixed wireless broadband as it was better than dialup or what ATT was offering which was dialup. Don't ask me about the prices and restrictions Verizon and the lot wanted for broadband on the cell networks. When I shop for internet I shop for a pipe, not buckets. It seems most of these providers now days only want to sell buckets. Hopefully when the housing track goes in this year behind me they run the feeder lines by me and I will get some good speeds finally.
I don't really care how it appears to you, I'm just telling you what I know.
Maybe that's accurate, maybe just someone spouting bull****. He could be located in a huge apartment complex right next to the NOC. His complex may subsidize his connection. There are apartments like that around here too, they pay for the basic speeds/plan and renters can pay a little extra to get the premium plan.
You've got it good. The idiots here in America don't realize the rest of the Western World passed them by 5 or 6 years ago. Not just internet speed, but quality of life in general. America's pretty much been garbage since 2008.
I live in a semi-rural area, and we only acquired high-speed internet about....5 years ago?It's our large vast rural areas that drag down our average speeds here. If you notice, Canada has similar slower speeds in comparison.
That's fine but if you take the EU as a whole, it's download speed is faster than the USA's. The EU is a lot bigger in terms of population.
It's the area that needs to be covered that makes a big difference. IIRC, to get to the size of the US you'd have to start at Moscow. Did you include European Russia and all the countries west and southwest of there in your average? I'd bet good money you didn't.That's fine but if you take the EU as a whole, it's download speed is faster than the USA's. The EU is a lot bigger in terms of population.
It's the area that needs to be covered that makes a big difference. IIRC, to get to the size of the US you'd have to start at Moscow. Did you include European Russia and all the countries west and southwest of there in your average? I'd bet good money you didn't.
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My speed of 14mpbs meets my demand just fine. Plenty to download videos (which seldom come in faster than 6mpbs) and watch Netflix at the same time.
Population is irrelevant. It's area that matters and whats in the area. The US, Canada, Russia, and China have FAR more rural, hard to reach areas than the EU does. Your entire premise is in error.
Looking at that list, it looks like there is a correlation between the size of the country and the internet speed. Even with our size, I feel like we have far more economic capabilities than a large majority of that list and we could improve our placement on that list. But what do I know? I'm a liberal so I definitely don't know anything about economics.
*Shrugs*
Population is irrelevant. It's area that matters and whats in the area. The US, Canada, Russia, and China have FAR more rural, hard to reach areas than the EU does. Your entire premise is in error.
help me conservative personI know this is off-topic and I apologize for it, but I have to say that it is refreshing to encounter a liberal who knows and admits his limitations.
LOL!!
Well aware of that mmkat? But you obviously were unaware of the area difference since you kept comparing the EU and the US. I thought I'd help you out a little.European Russia is not part of the EU, mmkay? So no I wouldn't include them when I say the EU is faster than the US.
You think Novosibirsk is tougher than Fairbanks, Anchorage, or even Butte MT? As far as the Internet goes, those American cities are worse. Novosibirsk is on the Trans-Siberian Railway, which I'd bet good money is also where they ran their fiber optics. No such thing as one main pass like that in America; The closest you might get would be I-70.Oh but Russia, Asian and European, is equal to the United States in internet speed. You telling me it's easier to hook up broadband in Novosibirsk Siberia than in rural Alabama?
Well aware of that mmkat? But you obviously were unaware of the area difference since you kept comparing the EU and the US. I thought I'd help you out a little.
You think Novosibirsk is tougher than Fairbanks, Anchorage, or even Butte MT? As far as the Internet goes, those American cities are worse. Novosibirsk is on the Trans-Siberian Railway, which I'd bet good money is also where they ran their fiber optics. No such thing as one main pass like that in America; The closest you might get would be I-70.
What do you figure the Internet is like in Yakutsk?
Not really... just a lame excuse. Most populations live in clusters, which are easy to service if you just try. Of course there will always be those that live in the middle of no where, and there might be more of those in the US and Russia and Canada, but they are a relative statistical irrelevancy when 99% of the population lives in clusters.
It all comes down to investment and willingness to do so by companies and government, and here places like the US and others lower on the list are not willing to do the investment needed because there is no real competition to drive such investment. If you look at the list also, the countries at the top are also countries with lots and lots of choice... something those lower on the list dont have in many areas.
Exactly. How many people live in those "inhospitable" places? Almost nil.I think there's no way you can say that the USA is more rural than Russia, since Russia has the largest landmass on earth and a good portion of it is inhospitable.
Not even close. Russia's primary east-west conduit runs right through Novosibirsk. How far does the US's main fiber optic line have to detour to get to Fairbanks?And yes, Novosibirsk is probably a lot tougher than Fairbanks.
Oh, I freely admit we're not the best and I've been trying to explain why it's that way - besides us being just plain cheap.Correct. Some people just can't admit that the USA isn't the best at everything. Kind of funny actually.
I think there's no way you can say that the USA is more rural than Russia, since Russia has the largest landmass on earth and a good portion of it is inhospitable. And yes, Novosibirsk is probably a lot tougher than Fairbanks.
Exactly. How many people live in those "inhospitable" places? Almost nil.
Not even close. Russia's primary east-west conduit runs right through Novosibirsk. How far does the US's main fiber optic line have to detour to get to Fairbanks?
um, yeah. Russia doesn't have to provide internet to areas that are inhospitable where people don't live.....
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