IS Warren done?

Jay59 · Jan 6, 2020

She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

jamesrage · Jan 6, 2020

Jay59 said:
She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

Have the primary elections taken place yet?If not seems too early to count her out of the race.

MrWonka · Jan 6, 2020

Jay59 said:
She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

While most people seem to think Warren and Sanders are kind of splitting votes polling has shown that it's really Biden and Warren that share the most voters. We saw a little while back when Biden stumbled significantly that it followed a significant rise with Warren. It will be interesting to see if Biden continues to stick his foot in his mouth over the next month or so what that might do. I don't think I'd count her out just yet.

Integrityrespec · Jan 6, 2020

MrWonka said:
While most people seem to think Warren and Sanders are kind of splitting votes polling has shown that it's really Biden and Warren that share the most voters. We saw a little while back when Biden stumbled significantly that it followed a significant rise with Warren. It will be interesting to see if Biden continues to stick his foot in his mouth over the next month or so what that might do. I don't think I'd count her out just yet.

Biden and Warren both continually stick their foot in their mouth. Biden is a gaff a minute and Warren has told so many fairy tales about her history and her family that folks have lost some interest.

Cardinal · Jan 6, 2020

It's hard to deny that the party is coalescing around Biden.

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

Jay59 said:
She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

She is fried and will go bye bye pretty soon. then again the longer she stays in the more fractured they will stay.

Craig234 · Jan 6, 2020

Integrityrespec said:
Biden and Warren both continually stick their foot in their mouth. Biden is a gaff a minute and Warren has told so many fairy tales about her history and her family that folks have lost some interest.

The only one telling fairy tales is you. Warren said she grew up being told there had been a native American several generations before. There was.

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

Integrityrespec said:
Biden and Warren both continually stick their foot in their mouth. Biden is a gaff a minute and Warren has told so many fairy tales about her history and her family that folks have lost some interest.

Biden will win the nomination. him winning the presidency is a huge task.
Biden's best bet to win the presidency was right after obama, but clinton was promised the nomination.
biden would have beat out clinton no doubt about it.

he has an uphill fight against trump whether these leftist believe it or not.

He can't argue russia
the impeachment thing was a bust
and he can't bring that up without hitting himself in the face.

He can't really say anything about the economy as it is already booming to the point i don't think there is much ceiling left.
he is going to be hard put to actually have a platform other than we don't like that guy.

medicare for all is highly unpopular when people are told the facts and the truth about it.

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

Craig234 said:
The only one telling fairy tales is you. Warren said she grew up being told there had been a native American several generations before. There was.

wrong yet again.

Elizabeth Warren's Native American problem just got even worse - CNNPolitics

On Tuesday, Warren's claims took a major hit: The Washington Post reported on a Texas bar registration card from 1986 in which, clearly and apparently in her own hand, the Massachusetts Democrat had written "American Indian" when asked to identify her race.

Technically she should be disbarred over that.
that is lying no doubt about it.

it wasn't a mistake she knew what she was doing.

she is no more native american than the man in the moon.

iguanaman · Jan 6, 2020

ludin said:
Biden will win the nomination. him winning the presidency is a huge task.
Biden's best bet to win the presidency was right after obama, but clinton was promised the nomination.
biden would have beat out clinton no doubt about it.

he has an uphill fight against trump whether these leftist believe it or not.

He can't argue russia
the impeachment thing was a bust
and he can't bring that up without hitting himself in the face.

He can't really say anything about the economy as it is already booming to the point i don't think there is much ceiling left.
he is going to be hard put to actually have a platform other than we don't like that guy.

medicare for all is highly unpopular when people are told the facts and the truth about it.

Biden supports adding a public option to the ACA not medicare for all. Trump is the most unpopular sitting President ever and Biden will defeat Trump easily.

iguanaman · Jan 6, 2020

ludin said:
wrong yet again.

Elizabeth Warren's Native American problem just got even worse - CNNPolitics

On Tuesday, Warren's claims took a major hit: The Washington Post reported on a Texas bar registration card from 1986 in which, clearly and apparently in her own hand, the Massachusetts Democrat had written "American Indian" when asked to identify her race.

Technically she should be disbarred over that.
that is lying no doubt about it.

it wasn't a mistake she knew what she was doing.

she is no more native american than the man in the moon.

LOL That story is a year old and she derived no benefit from her statement on that form.

bradt99 · Jan 6, 2020

iguanaman said:
Biden supports adding a public option to the ACA not medicare for all. Trump is the most unpopular sitting President ever and Biden will defeat Trump easily.

Sure Biden will lol.

bradt99 · Jan 6, 2020

I see Bernie winning Iowa and NH.

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

iguanaman said:
Biden supports adding a public option to the ACA not medicare for all. Trump is the most unpopular sitting President ever and Biden will defeat Trump easily.

RCP Average 12/11 - 1/5 -- 45.2 52.3 -7.1

Obama approval rating 2016
2011 46.5 47.9 -1.4

Trumps approval rating is about the same as obama's was during the same time period.

statistically speaking he is running about the same approval (in some cases slightly) ahead
of obama during the same time period.

facts do not agree with you.

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

iguanaman said:
LOL That story is a year old and she derived no benefit from her statement on that form.

It doesn't matter she lied on a legal form.
if you actually read those things they are sworn statements of fact under
penalty of felony.

she lied. which technically means as soon as they found out they should have disbarred her ass.
she doesn't have to receive benefit.

why do you people constantly just make **** up?

ludin · Jan 6, 2020

bradt99 said:
I see Bernie winning Iowa and NH.

i don't see how unless he says something in the last debate that he hasn't already said 100m times already.

swing_voter · Jan 6, 2020

Jay59 said:
She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

The Bernie Bros sure hope so. Bernie Bros are the main reason I hate Sanders.

bradt99 · Jan 6, 2020

ludin said:
i don't see how unless he says something in the last debate that he hasn't already said 100m times already.

Biden is an old fool, he will self destruct.

Condor060 · Jan 6, 2020

Craig234 said:
The only one telling fairy tales is you. Warren said she grew up being told there had been a native American several generations before. There was.

And then she used it taking a minority status and the benefits thereof until she got caught.
Then trying to have a DNA test to prove her heritage that showed she had less native American DNA than my dog does
Then apologizing for her idiocy.
I guess you conveniently forgot that part.

Jay59 · Jan 6, 2020

ludin said:
Biden will win the nomination. him winning the presidency is a huge task.
Biden's best bet to win the presidency was right after obama, but clinton was promised the nomination.
biden would have beat out clinton no doubt about it.

he has an uphill fight against trump whether these leftist believe it or not.

He can't argue russia
the impeachment thing was a bust
and he can't bring that up without hitting himself in the face.

He can't really say anything about the economy as it is already booming to the point i don't think there is much ceiling left.
he is going to be hard put to actually have a platform other than we don't like that guy.

medicare for all is highly unpopular when people are told the facts and the truth about it.

Biden's biggest problem is going to be himself. On no level does he inspire confidence. For all his faults, the same cannot be said of Trump.

tres borrachos · Jan 6, 2020

Jay59 said:
She is now clearly fourth in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Most nominees have outright won one or the other and none has ever been 3rd or lower in both. As a practical matter, the first and second place finishers receive a massive amount of free publicity. Looking deeper, there is also the erosion of Warren's once strong position in California. Iowa is four weeks from tomorrow. California is in eight weeks. On the surface at least, people no longer consider her a serious candidate.

I live in NH. She and Mayor Pete are in a statistical tie, as are Biden and Sanders.

The Democratic nominee in 2016 didn't win here. Sanders did.

Acadia · Jan 6, 2020

iguanaman said:
LOL That story is a year old and she derived no benefit from her statement on that form.

You thin that's how actual minorities see it?

Acadia · Jan 6, 2020

ludin said:
i don't see how unless he says something in the last debate that he hasn't already said 100m times already.

I think most sane Americans are offended by his statement about defending the Boston bomber's right to vote.

Acadia · Jan 6, 2020

Condor060 said:
And then she used it taking a minority status and the benefits thereof until she got caught.
Then trying to have a DNA test to prove her heritage that showed she had less native American DNA than my dog does
Then apologizing for her idiocy.
I guess you conveniently forgot that part.

Then lying about her choices when it came to her kid's schooling, and telling other parents they shouldn't have that same choice.

Condor060 · Jan 6, 2020

Acadia said:
Then lying about her choices when it came to her kid's schooling, and telling other parents they shouldn't have that same choice.

Touche

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