disneydude
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I truly believe that if torture will save American lives or prevent a terrorist attack the likes of 9/11 or worse I say go for it!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the type of mentality that subjects our brave men and women of the military to torture. Ever hear of the Geneva convention navy?
Just for giggles? No.
Nuclear weapon on a timer hidden in a major US city and we have a terrorist in custody who knows where it is? Yeah... but even then it should not be enshrined in law, more like "a forgiveable offense done out of desperate necessity."
Let me ask you all a question...If your Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Wife, Daughter, Son....was kidnapped and you believed their death was eminent and your options to find them have run out.....would you torture one of their kidnappers to find out where they were...or to try and find out where they were....
I WOULD...IN A FLASH....so my answer is YES under certain circumstances torture is justifiable
There are any scenarios where torture is justifiable. The punishment for an illegal or immoral act involving a victim should be harsher than what the suspect inflicted on others. If you apply this statement, the fact that there are criminals who torture victims implies there are criminals who deserve to be tortured. One of the purposes of punishments is to serve as a deterrent, thus you could argue many of our punishments are insufficient in this respect. I also support the torture of someone evil for the prevention of harm to someone innocent. Overall, I'm a strong believer in rewards and punishments for all positive and negative acts, respectively, with order preserved. By order preserved, I mean better positive acts get better reward and worse negative acts get harsher punishment.
AN eye for an eye is not a justice system it is barbaric, and actually what America stands against.
Let me ask you all a question...If your Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Wife, Daughter, Son....was kidnapped and you believed their death was eminent and your options to find them have run out.....would you torture one of their kidnappers to find out where they were...or to try and find out where they were....
I WOULD...IN A FLASH....so my answer is YES under certain circumstances torture is justifiable
A punishment softer than the criminal act is illogical and a lack of justice, whether it's a $300 fine for stealing $500 or 20 years in jail for murder.
A punishment softer than the criminal act is illogical and a lack of justice, whether it's a $300 fine for stealing $500 or 20 years in jail for murder.
I depends if your decision to torture was legally backed or not? How much do you love the person that is kidnapped, are you willing to do the time for the crime of torture to save them? But if you are asserting that we should torture people in desperate situations as a legal recourse, then in that case I will be your enemy on the battlefield.
You are over simplifying the justice system. We do not fine people for theft. And the sentence for the guilty has to meet well set standards of the justice system. But my point is that eye for an eye is barbaric and the policy of tyrants not a society with liberty and freedom. ANd dont assume that I am advocating soft punishment for crimes. But some circumstances do not dictate severe punishment for a severe crime. For example if someone kills my kids and I kill them two days later after finding them, should I be put to death? I argue that zero tolerance sentencing is barbaric and will exact punishment much more extreme than what some people may deserve.
Yup. How many nations have we fought recently who were signatories, or demonstrated themselves otherwise obligated to follow it?
It may seem ridiculous and a totally disgusting breach of human rights, but in some cases, do some people deserve just as much pain as they inflicted onto their victims?
It may seem ridiculous and a totally disgusting breach of human rights, but in some cases, do some people deserve just as much pain as they inflicted onto their victims?
Why torture??
Do we have to be just as sadistic as the people we are trying to punish? Is that the goal...?
Stupid neanderthal like thinking...
yes. we need to be sadistic. we need to make them understand that messing with america means you die, slowly. it means your children die, slowly. it means your entire extended family dies, slowly. we need to teach them why burning 3000 americans to death with jet fuel was a mistake. we need to teach this lesson violently, slowly, and methodically. so that when this lesson is learned, it will be a 1000 years before someone tries another 9/11 on american soil.
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