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Whether you are a gun zealot or would prefer no guns in America, do you believe that the founders wrote the 2nd Amendment anticipating that America would become the most violent developed country in the world?
Congress won't do anything. The courts apparently never understood what a comma means in a phrase. Our only hope for meaningful gun safety in America appears to be in a Democrat President that is willing to grab powers denied to the Executive by law and use them.
I think he's trying to say you fantasize about murdering people he can't have an argument that doesn't involve accusing people of terrible things because his position is stupid.Fantasies? I do have easily portable lethal power that can be used against humans. Reality.
It's called a motor vehicle.
Bullshit. The 2A says “the right of the people”, not “the right of the militia”. And the Supreme Court has agreed that it is an individual right since at least the 1850s.Actually, yes. Prior to that it was viewed as a right to form a militia.
Read it and weep:Bullshit. The 2A says “the right of the people”, not “the right of the militia”. And the Supreme Court has agreed that it is an individual right since at least the 1850s.
A more enlightened SCOTUS would have concluded that 2A refers to a collective right to form a militia and individual firearm ownership can be heavily regulated since the consequences of modern firearms was never anticipated.There are two answers to this question.
1-The Founding Fathers would shit on the rat politicians that have created the shitholes in this country and the revolving door justice system that is responsible for the vast majority of shootings in this country.
2-They would absolutely preserve the freedoms of the 330 million legal US citizens against retarded leftist politicians that would try to use the action of an extreme minority of criminal scumbags as justification to attack a Constitutionally protected right.
What was in the FB post to warrant an arrest?You mean those “civilized” countries like the UK where you can be arrested for a FB post?
That sounds like a "process" and one I am not familiar with. Nor am I sure what the impact would be, what difference it would make in enforcement or legislation?
The Second Amendment has nothing to do with the level of violence in America.Whether you are a gun zealot or would prefer no guns in America, do you believe that the founders wrote the 2nd Amendment anticipating that America would become the most violent developed country in the world?
What is there to do?Congress won't do anything.
There is no such meaning to understand.The courts apparently never understood what a comma means in a phrase.
In other words it is critical to keep voting for Republicans. The Democrats mean to abolish our freedom and violate our civil liberties.Our only hope for meaningful gun safety in America appears to be in a Democrat President that is willing to grab powers denied to the Executive by law and use them.
Let us just repeal 2A and leave it at that.Basically, I would switch the underlying grounds for RKBA from the Second Amendment to the Ninth Amendment and the context from militia to self defense.
RKBA rooted in self defense is more relevant to the modern era than RKBA rooted in an archaic concept of militia.
It would be possible to actually repeal the Second Amendment and have a robust RKBA based on the Ninth Amendment.
That is incorrect. It prevents the government from disarming the people.The Second Amendment was written for a very narrow reason. To keep the Federal Government from disarming State Militias. That is all.
Thank God for the Fourteenth Amendment.Prior to the 14th Amendment, the Second Amendment did not apply to the States, who were free to enact 100% gun confiscation if they had wished. And they did, in regards to non-whites for the most part, who, at best, had limited access to firearms.
Thank God for judges who uphold the Constitution.And it took until 2010 for the Supreme Court to bother incorporating the Second Amendment against the States.
In other words, it is critical to keep voting for Republicans. The Democrats mean to abolish freedom in America and violate our civil liberties.the Supreme Court will not always stay as it is and a future court will likely narrow the decisions of the current court and could even go so far as to disincorporate the Second Amendment by overturning MacDonald.
Those people are lying.Some argue that the real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says “State” instead of “Country” (the framers knew the difference — see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote.
Fake news. Never happened.Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason and James Madison were totally clear on that… and we all should be too.
Fake news. Never happened.The Second Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery
The real reason for the Second Amendment’s ratification was to preserve slave patrol militias.truthout.org
No. That was 1541.Is that when they invented gun ownership as an individual right?
That is incorrect. Prior to Heller, the Second Amendment was viewed as protecting the people's right to keep and bear arms.Actually, yes. Prior to that it was viewed as a right to form a militia.
That is incorrect. "That guns provide people with protection" is neither fantasy nor mythology nor misconception.Firearm addicts have developed a series of fantasies about being able to have easily portable lethal power to use against humans. That has produced mythology about defending a home or use of a firearm for self-defense. Those misconceptions serve to drive the pro-gun agenda. inflame the ignorant, and control the political process.
That is incorrect. All rights are individual rights. "Collective right" is a nonsense term. No one can explain what a collective right even is.Read it and weep:
The militia represents a collective right. Heller turned that into an individual right.
The Evolution of the Second Amendment - New Jersey State Bar Foundation
by Jodi L. Miller “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” These 27 words that comprise the Second Amendment have been endlessly debated by legal scholars, judges and justices in the modern...njsbf.org
That is incorrect. There is nothing enlightened about maliciously violating people's civil liberties for no reason.A more enlightened SCOTUS would have concluded that 2A refers to a collective right to form a militia
Meaningless weasel words. "Heavily regulated" doesn't actually mean anything.individual firearm ownership can be heavily regulated since the consequences of modern firearms was never anticipated.
No.Let us just repeal 2A and leave it at that.
Read it and weep:
The militia represents a collective right. Heller turned that into an individual right.
The Evolution of the Second Amendment - New Jersey State Bar Foundation
by Jodi L. Miller “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” These 27 words that comprise the Second Amendment have been endlessly debated by legal scholars, judges and justices in the modern...njsbf.org
A more enlightened SCOTUS would have concluded that 2A refers to a collective right to form a militia and individual firearm ownership can be heavily regulated since the consequences of modern firearms was never anticipated.
Let us just repeal 2A and leave it at that.
Thank God for the Fourteenth Amendment.
Thanks to @bongsaway for the idea of the format...
Whether you are a gun zealot or would prefer no guns in America, do you believe that the founders wrote the 2nd Amendment anticipating that America would become the most violent developed country in the world?
Congress won't do anything. The courts apparently never understood what a comma means in a phrase. Our only hope for meaningful gun safety in America appears to be in a Democrat President that is willing to grab powers denied to the Executive by law and use them.
I see denial is not just a river in Egypt.Those people are lying.
Fake news. Never happened.
Fake news. Never happened.
Thom Hartmann is lying. It is appropriate that lies be denied.I see denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Being a follower of TrumpSpeak I doubt if a Trumper could even recognize a lieThom Hartmann is lying. It is appropriate that lies be denied.
A more enlightened SCOTUS would have concluded that 2A refers to a collective right to form a militia and individual firearm ownership can be heavily regulated since the consequences of modern firearms was never anticipated.
Basically, I would switch the underlying grounds for RKBA from the Second Amendment to the Ninth Amendment and the context from militia to self defense.
RKBA rooted in self defense is more relevant to the modern era than RKBA rooted in an archaic concept of militia.
It would be possible to actually repeal the Second Amendment and have a robust RKBA based on the Ninth Amendment.
Every gunfetisher heard the call of this thread. Prepare to be gished.Thanks to @bongsaway for the idea of the format...
Whether you are a gun zealot or would prefer no guns in America, do you believe that the founders wrote the 2nd Amendment anticipating that America would become the most violent developed country in the world?
Congress won't do anything. The courts apparently never understood what a comma means in a phrase. Our only hope for meaningful gun safety in America appears to be in a Democrat President that is willing to grab powers denied to the Executive by law and use them.
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