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Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

Is the US perceived as weaker in influence under Obama?


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I have a feeling you're one of those US Conservatives that would damn him whatever he did. If he determined and achieved the deposition of Assad, you'd condemn him for kow-towing to the Saudis and being a secret AQ supporter.

Not really. I wanted him out of there, like I wanted him out of Libya.
But he stayed-and allowed AQ to kill 4 Americans there as well.
 

Kindly link to these, please. Lefty blogs dont count.
 
One thing that I've always wondered about that is that if it was Clinton's fault, Why did G.W. Bush take a dump in his pants when it happened ?

Bush seriously lost it that day, and it's all on tape.


Because his nation was under attack? I dont think he lost it-but lets see whats "on tape". :roll:

Imagine if Al Gore or even worse Obama had been in power. :doh
 

How is Obama leading?

He is punked diplomatically, and even the democrats in congress have difficulty working with him. He leads from behind, piss poorly.
 
Why of course a military operation, set in to motion and ordered by the President of the United States of America,(Chief Executive Officer.) would be in the hands of a top brass officer; you wouldn't think that the President is going to be with them to lead would you?

The way infowars had it wrote up, Obama was using Admiral McRaven as a scapegoat; wrong, he was the highly competent leader of that group taking orders from the President to basically stay on the mission. Note:

Memo for the Record - April 29, 2011 10:35 AM.

Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the president made a decision with regard to AC1. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the president. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the president for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get Bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 a.m.

Leon Panetta, CIA


Points:

1. Point clear in the memo: "If he is not there to get out."
2.Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. (Meaning anything that strays from those orders are to brought to the Chief Executive Officer's attention)

Any military operation that the President is directly involved with or it is just in the military's hands are carried out through something known as orders; it's just the way it has always been handled. No one is trying to hide because they're embarrassed over what they're doing; and, for that overweight blowhard that had the audacity to show one story where there was dishonor involved --just in case it failed--or that the whole thing was just a fabrication, and expect people to see both stories at that site and try to see some kind of credibility in that smut, does not show to well on Mr. Jones' integrity, now does it?

Now in the article you proposed in the above quote, where does it state that President Obama tried to hide behind Admiral McRaven just in case this thing didn't work out right? It seems to me that infowars didn't copy that part down right.

And those Seals? They're selling books. :roll:
 

Not Obama, he was on the golf course when the Navy SEAL's were already in the air.

Obama was out of the loop. He was informed that the mission was in process while playing golf.

All you have to do is look at the photo op in the White House situation room. Everyone in the room looks clueless on what was happening including Obama except for Gates and the Air Force officer sitting in the CnC chair in the situation room.

 
Well I guess you must want him to be on that plane personally leading? Seriously? Which one is worse? A President playing golf waiting for the special forces to get to their destination, or the USA being under attack while you keep on reading a book in an elementary school? Puzzled by that?



Don't worry. You can't be as puzzled as Bush was.
 

Note how Obama sat in the room. He sure does NOT look like a leader.
 

The more I look, the more derision Obama come under from foreign leaders.

This all the way back in 2009:
Do World Leaders Respect Obama?

"manipulatable clown", "always ready to be the first to compromise" Direct quotes from world leaders that's not sounding like respect to me.

Barack Obama

Embarrassing speeches in foreign lands in front of foreign leaders. Sure to win respect.

No, I really don't think that Obama is respect in international leadership circles.

As a contrast, not that I'm a Bush supporter other than wanting him to be treated fairly, note the differences as perceived by:
10 reasons why George W. Bush was a smarter world leader than Barack Obama – Telegraph Blogs

So, no, I really don't think that Obama is respect in international leadership circles.
 

Why not post the video for all. G.W. Bush wasn't even reading the book. In fact look at the book, it's upside down. His face shows great concern. Now look at Obama's face in the W.H. photo op, he looks clueless. His only concern is getting reelected. He's not even sitting in the chair he's suppose to be sitting in.

Obama never issued an order. Obama just signed off on the raid. That memo is just that, a memo. If you have served in the military you would know what a directive looks like and what an order looks like. They aren't hand written. They all look like they came from a teletype machine. All upper case letters.

Then after the raid, Obama ignored the chain of command for his own political gain. Obama went on national television before the SEAL's could be debriefed and before an "After Action Report" could have been typed up and worked it's way up through there chain of command. Ignoring the chain a command is a big no no from a low ranking private to the Commander in Chief.

FYI:
When dealing with the military, POTUS is the Commander in Chief not the "Chief Executive Officer." Executive Officers in the military chain of command aren't the Commanding Officers. They are usually second in command.

There's the Executive Branch of Government that President Obama is suppose to be responsible for. In the real world if Obama were a CEO in the private sector, the Board of Directors would have fired Obama as CEO for being incompetent, probably around June of 2009.

It's Navy SEAL's, it's an acronym for Sea, Air, and Land. All upper case letters.
 
Note how Obama sat in the room. He sure does NOT look like a leader.

As the photo shows, Obama wasn't even sitting in the commander's chair.

Have you ever been on a Navy warship ? Unless the Navy has been dumbed down, the only person who could ever sit in the Captain's chair on the bridge was the captain.
 
Note how Obama sat in the room. He sure does NOT look like a leader.
He's in the situation room being briefed and he's leaning forward like he's actually paying attention to what's being said. Yes, I can understand where Shrub lovers could misinterpret that. I doubt Georgie Porgie ever paid real attention to anything except his beer or his Bible.
 
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The more I look, the more derision Obama come under from foreign leaders.
Yes, I'm sure you can find a virtually unlimited number of sites taking words out of context to smear the President. Shrub didn't and doesn't need words out of context, he's an idiot and always was an idiot. I'm glad he went slinking back to his village after starting a fake war, turning most of the world against us, and killing the economy in his final act of the play.
 
canadafreepress

telegraph

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Yeah, there's some quality entertainment for you! No doubt you HAD to use The Telegraph twice.

Those "references" are worth 3/3 for being objective and representative of their respective countries ...

:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
That's fine. I'll let you continue believing what Alex Jones is spewing. :yawn:
 
Yeah, there's some quality entertainment for you! No doubt you HAD to use The Telegraph twice.

Those "references" are worth 3/3 for being objective and representative of their respective countries ...

:lamo :lamo :lamo

As if one could get any honesty about the topic from the Biased Lame Stream Media.

So your position is that Obama is adored and respected in international leadership? Prove it.
 
As if one could get any honesty about the topic from the Biased Lame Stream Media.

So your position is that Obama is adored and respected in international leadership? Prove it.
Adored? No clue. Respected? One way or another, yes. If nothing else he's the leader of the biggest gorilla on the block.


You've already proved it. You're the one that convinced me with our evidence. - the Gallop poll you, yourself, posted as a reference. And obviously you accept that source or you wouldn't have posted it in the first place. Here, I'll post that reference one more time:

Obama's U.S. Leadership Marks Better Than Bush's | Gallop Poll
 
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Yes, we talk of little else.
 

Its a staged photo-Obama has his own personal photographers take staged photos-and then he releases them to the media if he wants to.
 
As the photo shows, Obama wasn't even sitting in the commander's chair.

Have you ever been on a Navy warship ? Unless the Navy has been dumbed down, the only person who could ever sit in the Captain's chair on the bridge was the captain.

Obama isn't in charge, he leads from behind.
 
Its a staged photo-Obama has his own personal photographers take staged photos-and then he releases them to the media if he wants to.
So first it was a Big Deal because he didn't look right and he was in the wrong chair and so on and so forth.

But now it's a "staged photo" because my explanations are rational?!? I haven't seen a shift that fast since they quit using manual clutches for the drag strip.
That's another 3/3 ... :lamo :lamo :lamo
 
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Everything he puts out is propaganda. What do you think that photo is?

Yes, he's a chump.
 
Everything he puts out is propaganda. What do you think that photo is?

Yes, he's a chump.
You're the one that was going on and on about the photo, not me. You certainly didn't act like it was a "publicity shot" when you posted your first comment about it.


But that's OK, I'm used to rhetoric and direction change from Republican lap dogs.
 

He think it paints him in a certain light-probably thinking liberals would see it as a sign of strength or something.
 

With a cowardly ***** like Obama in charge, it is not a perception but an absolute reality. Because it is a reality and not a perception and your question was perception, I had to go with "certainly not".
 
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