The_Patriot
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If you dont like paying income taxes, stop making an income.
You wont be whipped, beaten or hamstrung by your master
As a slave you would be
The last time I checked that failing to pay income taxes resulted in the seizure of your property and mandatory prison time. You were saying about being a slave? Also, not earning any money to live on is very unrealistic.
Notice that I said stop making an income
No income no income taxes
And you can live without earning money,
Buy about 500 acres and farmstead. You wont have electricity, a computer or a car but you will live
Notice that I said stop making an income
No income no income taxes
And you can live without earning money,
Buy about 500 acres and farmstead. You wont have electricity, a computer or a car but you will live
Not really since even bartering for goods is still earning an income. Also, a farm cannot be self sustaining anymore without the USDA breathing down your neck for compliance with federal and state regulations.
Not really since even bartering for goods is still earning an income. Also, a farm cannot be self sustaining anymore without the USDA breathing down your neck for compliance with federal and state regulations.
Only if you are selling produce.
No. The government needs an income to support military, public works and roads etc. I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes. It is when I see them throwing good money after bad on failed programs I have a problem. Otherwise no, it's not in any way slavery.
do you get anything in return fir your tax, if not, then i suppose it is.
This is based off what someone said in another thread. Since the 14th Amendment prohibits slavery of any kind does income, consumption based, and sale taxes a form of slavery that economically ties a person to the government and by default the poor?
I would have to say yes since the Congressional Budget Office has stated many times that the route the country is going that many people working in 2020 and beyond will have to pay roughly 90% of their income in taxes to keep up the rate of services the government provides. This, to me, is economic slavery to the government and a violation of the 14th Amendment.
A good majority of people that pay taxes rarely use the services they are paying for. A good example is a single homeowner with no kids paying property taxes to send another person's kids to school. There are more examples of the taxes paid in with no service in return. Failure to pay any type of tax will usually result in seizure of your property and mandatory prison time.
I expect things to be changed before 2020. That statement by them is to encourage change, not to warn people that the end is near and it is guaranteed that we will be paying 90% taxes in 2020.
So people shouldn't be expected (or even feel obligated) to contribute to the future of their country (i.e. the children of this country)?
So you have no problem in forcing your kids, grandkids, and great-grandkids to pay more of their income to keep up with the services the government(s) provides? If it takes 90% of the money they make to keep the system going isn't that paying their fair share and not economic slavery to the governemt and the people around them?
At the expense of 90% of their income? Nope, I wouldn't since that is economic slavery. Do you support slavery in any of its forms?
How is it changing when the government at all levels is increasing spending?
At the expense of 90% of their income? Nope, I wouldn't since that is economic slavery. Do you support slavery in any of its forms?
How did you get all that out of what I said? That is completely idiotic and I said nothing of the sort.
No I don't have a problem with them paying reasonable taxes. We vote for people to represent us in the government, and we get exactly the government we deserve. If you don't like it, vote them out.
Your example is as ridicules as the comment that taxes are in anyway a form of slavery.
Be serious, do you honestly think in 10 years people will be paying 90% taxes??? :lol:
My example is compliments of the Congressional Budget Office. Take it up with them if you have a problem with it.
So how has this voting out people that supported big government for those that wanted to reduce government working out for you?
Last time I checked, government increased under both the Republicans and Democrats...
So I take it that you do support economic slavery as long as its to the government(s). I got ya.
At the rate of inflation and the drop in wages due to said inflation I would say yes. If the chief accountant of the United States federal government is saying that this is how it will be if the government doesn't change its spending habits then I have nothing to dispute it. He, afterall, handles the books of the country and knows what it takes to keep the government running at its current level.
If you dont like paying income taxes, stop making an income.
You wont be whipped, beaten or hamstrung by your master
As a slave you would be
2020 is 10 years from now. Anything can happen between now and then.
100% of your taxes do not go to education. And no, I don't. And I don't think taxation is a form of slavery. It can become a burden and people can feel their money is being wasted... but if we actually held our government accountable we wouldn't be in this current mess. If people didn't always vote in two parties, the Democrats and Republicans wouldn't have the majority of the control over the government and we'd have a more effective government filled with independent minds.
Notice that I said stop making an income
No income no income taxes
And you can live without earning money,
Buy about 500 acres and farmstead. You wont have electricity, a computer or a car but you will live
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