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Is Lucy Letby a Baby killer ?

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One person who has attracted a lot of attention is Richard Gill, a statistician and retired mathematics professor, who told Al Jazeera: “I think it’s a million to one that she’s innocent.”

In 2006, Gill became involved in the Lucia de Berk case. De Berk, a paediatric nurse who had worked at three hospitals in The Hague, Netherlands, was arrested in 2001 on suspicion of killing babies, toddlers and elderly patients by increasing doses of medicine. She was sentenced to life in prison in 2003. In 2008, however, the case was reopened, and in 2009, the court accepted that the deaths were natural and de Berk was innocent.

Gill said the Letby case is “horribly the same” as de Berk’s. “From the beginning of the Lucy Letby case, I had the impression that ‘Oh, my God! Here it goes again.’ It was just the same,” he said. He sees parallels in the cases because in both instances, an argument was made that the nurse was present when suspicious events took place, not factoring in incidents that took place in the nurse’s absence.
 
Yes. Beyond evil.

It's a shocking story.

The fact that colleagues had suspicions about Letby for well over a year before hospital authorities contacted the police, was also very difficult to hear.
 
Care to expand ?

There's a lot to the story. I listened to a podcast awhile ago going through all of the evidence from the trials. Based on all of the evidence (which was a lot) she's very guilty.
 
There's a lot to the story. I listened to a podcast awhile ago going through all of the evidence from the trials. Based on all of the evidence (which was a lot) she's very guilty.
Like what ? Can you be 100% sure because all the evidence seems circumstantial
 
Like what ? Can you be 100% sure because all the evidence seems circumstantial

I'd have to listen to the entire podcast again to give you all of the details that proved to me she was guilty. It's been awhile so I don't remember details.
 
I'd have to listen to the entire podcast again to give you all of the details that proved to me she was guilty. It's been awhile so I don't remember details.
You are starting to sound unsure. You can just listen to a podcast on any subject and take as gospel
 
Like what ? Can you be 100% sure because all the evidence seems circumstantial
When you look at the big picture though, the insulin evidence is hard to argue against. No babies were being prescribed insulin.

High levels of insulin, but low levels of C-peptide (determined in the lab results) = someone purposely administering the Insulin.

She was the only one there when the babies health started deteriorating.
 
You are starting to sound unsure. You can just listen to a podcast on any subject and take as gospel
What are your thoughts on the case?
 
What are your thoughts on the case?
I’m not sure, however I do think there simply isn’t enough direct evidence. I would find it hard being on the jury.
 
Like what ? Can you be 100% sure because all the evidence seems circumstantial
Hospital data provides a compelling argument. We had a similarly situation here in Indiana 30 years ago. How the hospital missed it for so long is shear incompetence. This guy, Orville Lynn Majors, murdered over 100 patients.

However, suspicion developed when the death rate at VCH jumped significantly after Majors had returned to Indiana. The year before his return to VCH, an average of around 26 patients died annually at the 56-bed hospital and the four-bed intensive care unit.[5] After Majors started working at the facility, however, the rate skyrocketed to more than 100 per year, with nearly one out of every three patients admitted to the hospital dying.[6]

 
Hospital data provides a compelling argument. We had a similarly situation here in Indiana 30 years ago. How the hospital missed it for so long is shear incompetence. This guy, Orville Lynn Majors, murdered over 100 patients.

However, suspicion developed when the death rate at VCH jumped significantly after Majors had returned to Indiana. The year before his return to VCH, an average of around 26 patients died annually at the 56-bed hospital and the four-bed intensive care unit.[5] After Majors started working at the facility, however, the rate skyrocketed to more than 100 per year, with nearly one out of every three patients admitted to the hospital dying.[6]

I agree it could still be her but I find this compelling too.

“In a dramatic news conference in London, the chairman of the panel, Dr. Shoo Lee, a Canadian neonatologist, said an extensive independent review had found no evidence that Ms. Letby had murdered or attempted to kill any of the infants in her care.
He also highlighted what the 14-member panel determined were errors in medical care at the unit where the deaths occurred, at the Countess of Chester Hospital in northwestern England, in 2015 and 2016, and serious failings in the management of neonatal conditions. Some of the deaths had been preventable, he said.
But, Dr. Lee said, “Our conclusion was there was no medical evidence to support malfeasance causing injury in any of the 17 cases in the trial,” referring to the original charge of harming 17 babies. He added: “In summary, ladies and gentlemen, we did not find any murders.”

The review is significant because it was carried out by some of the most respected and experienced neonatal and pediatric specialists in the world.
The findings raise the most serious questions yet about a case that horrified Britain and led to Ms. Letby being called “the killer nurse” by the news media and vilified as one of the worst serial murderers of children in the country’s modern history. The prosecution told the jury in two trials that she had harmed babies through a macabre range of attacks: injecting them with air, overfeeding them with milk, infusing air into their gastrointestinal tracts and poisoning them with insulin.
However, Ms. Letby was never seen harming a baby and has always maintained her innocence. She was sentenced to spend the rest of her life in prison in 2023, and has already been detained for more than four years, after being charged in November 2020”

 
She's guilty.
 
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