robin said:Iraq may have had a few terrorists in their midst. Now it looks like we in England unfortunately also do. We aren't going to attack USA anymore than Iraq was going to attack USA, although of course the terrorists in our midst may launch attacks on the USA from here.
These are the grounds on which you have bombed then invaded Iraq.
The grounds that you might be attacked.
So there we go.. according to your governments logic & Mr Blairs logic it's time for you to start bombing us in the name of freedom, justice & self defense & peace.. just in case terrorist attacks on you are going to be launched from here.
In fact as Blair is your ally, perhaps we should bomb & attack ourselves ?
What do you think ?
In fact maybe the London Bombs were part of the war on terror. Suicide bombers blowing themselves up so there would then be less terrorists in London !
The innocent people on the buses & tube trains were mere collateral damage in the war on terror just like the thousands of innocent people killed in Iraq.
Maybe America should bomb & invade the entire planet in the name of freedom, justice & peace becuase there could be terrorists anywhere on earth. It's much more noble to be killed by an American bomb than a Muslim one after all.
What do you think ?
Moderator Gaveltr1414 said:People as stupid as you should not be allowed to live.
Where did all the love go in this room?People as stupid as you should not be allowed to live.
robin said:Iraq may have had a few terrorists in their midst. Now it looks like we in England unfortunately also do. We aren't going to attack USA anymore than Iraq was going to attack USA, although of course the terrorists in our midst may launch attacks on the USA from here.
robin said:These are the grounds on which you have bombed then invaded Iraq. The grounds that you might be attacked.Your narrow view and LIMITED knowledge of facts and events makes me question the validity of such posts, when for 15 years, Sadaam has been as defiant and as belligerent to policies of all nations.
robin said:So there we go.. according to your governments logic & Mr Blairs logic it's time for you to start bombing us in the name of freedom, justice & self defense & peace.. just in case terrorist attacks on you are going to be launched from here.
The martyr complex isn't winning you any points. In fact, if I were one of your countrymen I would be offended that you would write such ludicrous things. The scope of reality is missing from your existence, isn't it?
robin said:In fact as Blair is your ally, perhaps we should bomb & attack ourselves ?
See post above.
robin said:What do you think ?
I think your ideology is seriously flawed, and perhaps a good thing your not the leader of any nation on the planet.
robin said:In fact maybe the London Bombs were part of the war on terror. Suicide bombers blowing themselves up so there would then be less terrorists in London !
How do I respond to such nonsense? someone help me out here. I am really at a loss for words at this one.
robin said:The innocent people on the buses & tube trains were mere collateral damage in the war on terror just like the thousands of innocent people killed in Iraq.
I'm still waiting.. what about the citizens of Iraq who were killed by THEIR leader? what of them? did they not deserve justice?
robin said:Maybe America should bomb & invade the entire planet in the name of freedom, justice & peace becuase there could be terrorists anywhere on earth. It's much more noble to be killed by an American bomb than a Muslim one after all. What do you think ?
And how, praytell, do you suggest dealing with terrorists? Lock them up in middle of the desert? ummm one problem, terrorists hide. They're COWARDS. They have NO problem using innocent civilians to shield their own mayhem and destruction. And if you think the US is so bad, what of the MUSLIM terrorists in Iraq who have no problem destroying a mosque? What of the muslim suicide bombers, who would STILL be killing their own, regardless of whether we're there or not? Oh wait, they wouldn't be killing Iraqi's.. they'd still be focused on the Jew's of Israel. My bad, I guess that's better than killing Iraqi's, huh?
How many innocent Iraqis have you killed even though they had less to do with 911 than your flying schools ?debate_junkie said:Well what about if one of them terrorists was the supposed Leader of the country?
robin said:How many innocent Iraqis have you killed even though they had less to do with 911 than your flying schools ?
Answer = 23,000
How many innocent people have the terrorists killed in London, Madrid & 911 ?
Answer = 3250.
Who are the terrorists ?
Answer = Bush & Bin Laden.
Yeah Im no jingo so I'm quite happy to accept that Blair is a fool also.cindy said:Oh please...Are you forgetting that the British Army took part as well. How may Brits and Americans have DIED defending our countries?
Robin you do know you contradicted your first post right? In Your first post on this thread you blamed America for the bombings, then you rephrase it to be terrorists, make up your mind? :screwyrobin said:How many innocent Iraqis have you killed even though they had less to do with 911 than your flying schools ?
Answer = 23,000
How many innocent people have the terrorists killed in London, Madrid & 911 ?
Answer = 3250.
Who are the terrorists ?
Answer = Bush & Bin Laden.
robin said:Yeah Im no jingo so I'm quite happy to accept that Blair is a fool also.
Crusading idiot. Notice it's always the guys that profess to be Christains that rush to war. War's where they themselves keep well back from the front line of course.
Incidently how is a war in Iraq supposed to defending our countries ?
It's like trying to destroy the world's population of flies by standing in one country & swatting them.
Worse than that. It's now become a recruiting ground for them.
Please explain to me how killing more innocent people than the terroists have killed, is supposed to be a way of defending our countries ?
robin said:Some of the dodgyest people I'v ever met have been Christians so I'm not impressed one little bit by people calling themselves Christians. Wouldn't trust em any firther than I could throw them.
An example of an authentically sincere terrorist, in my book, would be George W. Bush. He terrorizes for money and oil, which are tangible resources in the real world. He became "born again" when he realised that he "could win the Texas governship with just the evangelical vote
robin said:Some of the dodgyest people I'v ever met have been Christians so I'm not impressed one little bit by people calling themselves Christians. Wouldn't trust em any firther than I could throw them.
He became "born again" when he realised that he "could win the Texas governship with just the evangelical vote
robin said:This has gone way off topic with drippy religious nonsense. You're missing the irony of this thread topic. Try being more down to earth.
Religious people are more likely to think a crusade for some cause is OK. Nazis were brainwashed into thinking they were right just like religious people are.
Science is the only way to truth. Religion is a virus of the mind.
Oh yes about 5% aren't started becuase of religion.sebastiansdreams said:Are you suggesting to me that no wars are started over land or hatred or missunderstanding, but simply because of religion?
robin said:Oh yes about 5% aren't started becuase of religion.
Your God exists only in your head. He is a mental constuct.
There is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of a loving caring God. Quite the reverse in fact.
sebastiansdreams said:I think people use "religion" as some sort of justification for war, when their motives are obviously something else. Wars are almost never (if ever) based completely on religion. There is always something else involved, and religion just allows someone to claim that they have God on their side.
Then what constructed the brain in my head?
Sure there is. It is all over. I experience His love every day of my life. I look outside the window and see the perfection of a world and universe and it's laws that couldn't have created themselves. I look at the world around me, the people around me, and I see how they are blessed and how I am blessed. What more proof do you need than everything? There is of course no proof that God does not exist.
Cancer, starvation, pestilence, Aids, death, wars yeah God really cares. Now say these are products of man not God.sebastiansdreams said:Sure there is. It is all over. I experience His love every day of my life. I look outside the window and see the perfection of a world and universe and it's laws that couldn't have created themselves. I look at the world around me, the people around me, and I see how they are blessed and how I am blessed. What more proof do you need than everything? There is of course no proof that God does not exist.
yeah God really cares
Now say these are products of man not God.
I'm outta here. Never get anywhere with starry eyed religious nutters like you.
This is way off topic anyway. Go off to some religion forum please.
I caught robin doing exactly the same thing in one of her other threads....stsburns said:Robin you do know you contradicted your first post right? In Your first post on this thread you blamed America for the bombings, then you rephrase it to be terrorists, make up your mind?
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