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Christianity was like that during the Mosaic period.
Nonetheless, it is a peaceful religion at its core just as is Christianity.
The problem is men (and women) have subverted the Muslim religion much as early Roman Catholic Priests once subverted Christianity, i.e., the Crusaded.
Define religion of peace.
And you don't? :roll:
*Whoosh!* :lamo But, ok, carry on.Nope. Then again, I don't think that an imaginary friend in the sky likes me better than they like other people with other imaginary friends. That's idiotic.
That would be Judaism, not Christianity.
Those events took place before Christ was even born.
Going by the strict word of the Quran, this is only true when dealing with other Muslims, or groups which have agreed to "submit" to them.
Frankly, I would argue that the Crusades weren't even necessarily wrong. They were a counter-attack against Muslim aggression in the Middle East, launched with the intention of aiding Christians who were at risk of conquest or enslavement.
They simply happened to get muddled down with a lot of secular greed, politics, and petty bigotry that sent the whole thing slowly but surely spiraling out of control.
True on both counts. However, New Testament teachings often refer back to Old Testament law as handed down by Moses when informing or otherwise instructing new converts that they were no longer bound by "the law". In that, Judaism is closely linked to Christianity. To many, there is no distinction as to the genesis of the Christian faith although the origin of the Christianity began with the birth and subsequent teachings of Christ.
I would disagree with you somewhat here. The Quran speaks of peace for believes in God and identifies those believers as "Surely, the Believers (Muslims), and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah (God/Jehovah) and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve". Now, I would agree that the Quran asks Muslims to "separate themselves from unbelievers" and to "do away with those who would not make a treaty with you", but doesn't Christianity if not nations who practice the Christian faith conduct themselves in much the same way?
Christians are to witness to non-believers and "be not of the world". America has aligned itself with Israel and has pledged to defend them against any aggressor. This debate could continue in the religious forum if you wish, but from my readings of both Holy writings we conduct ourselves in similar fashions. The biggest difference is Christianity allows the unsaved and unbelievers to come to God and Christ in their on way in their own time. The only string being repentance. Islam...there's still a lot of legalism...conformity...that comes with it.
A religion where non-violence, even in self defense, is a tenant of that religion. For example, followers of Jainism won't even eat a root vegetable because the harvest of it kills the plant.
True on both counts. However, New Testament teachings often refer back to Old Testament law as handed down by Moses when informing or otherwise instructing new converts that they were no longer bound by "the law". In that, Judaism is closely linked to Christianity. To many, there is no distinction as to the genesis of the Christian faith although the origin of the Christianity began with the birth and subsequent teachings of Christ.
I would disagree with you somewhat here. The Quran speaks of peace for believes in God and identifies those believers as "Surely, the Believers (Muslims), and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah (God/Jehovah) and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve". Now, I would agree that the Quran asks Muslims to "separate themselves from unbelievers" and to "do away with those who would not make a treaty with you", but doesn't Christianity if not nations who practice the Christian faith conduct themselves in much the same way?
Christians are to witness to non-believers and "be not of the world". America has aligned itself with Israel and has pledged to defend them against any aggressor. This debate could continue in the religious forum if you wish, but from my readings of both Holy writings we conduct ourselves in similar fashions. The biggest difference is Christianity allows the unsaved and unbelievers to come to God and Christ in their on way in their own time. The only string being repentance. Islam...there's still a lot of legalism...conformity...that comes with it.
The one is a continuation of the other, yes.
My point was simply that the Mosaic law really did not transfer over between the two. Christ regarded that law as having already served its purpose in most regards, or as having deviated from its intended purpose in some others, and he set a new law in place for that exact reason.
This is the reason why Christians have never been much for public stoning or avoiding pork, fr instance. :lol:
Ehhh... It's something of a fine distinction, to be honest. The Quran basically contradicts itself.
Earlier passages, where Mohammad was still building his power base, actually can be rather tolerant and charitable towards people of other faiths. As the book goes on, however, and Mohammad becomes more powerful, he also becomes progressively less and less tolerant, and more violent and bloodthirsty.
Some of his dying words, for instance, were "May Allah curse the Jews and the Christians, for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets."
The problem where modern Islam is concerned is that, unfortunately, Mohammad's later words and sayings are generally held to carry greater theological weight than his earlier words, as he supposedly grew "closer to God" as he aged.
As such, if one follows the strict teachings of Muslim theology, Islam really is not a "religion of peace" at all. It is a religion of war and conquest.
Thankfully, it simply happens to be the case that most Muslims aren't very good at following their religion. :lol:
Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?
Yes?
No?
Yes and no?
Something else?
Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.
Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
It is a religion of peace that strives to that goal through violence...
You can't say that!
What? Why?
What? Why?
Because leftists will be enraged.
We have to pretend everyone is suspect.
We can't admit we know where the problems lie, buddy.
You think if you talk stupidly about Christianity (e.g., saying Jesus spell), you'll impress someone. Maybe your brainless atheist friends is about all. No one else is impressed in the least. Let your anger go. You want to convince the rest of us that those cutting heads off are just version 3.0, well you can forget it. It's obvious you're wrong.Christianity is just Judaism 2.0, it is an extension of the religion, using the same god, just a new revelation. In a lot of ways, Islam is just Judaism 3.0, with an even newer revelation. The Bible is very clear that the OT is just as much in force as the NT but since lots of Christians really like a good lobster dinner, they find ways to rationalize their way around it. Heck, the Bible still supports slavery, even in the NT, but they find ways to overlook that as well. You'd think that if God really wanted to, he could have inspired someone in the NT to write down "don't own other people" but he never did.
But just like Christians, Muslims find their own convenient reading of their book, they can pick and choose passages to mean just about anything they want them to mean and then other groups of Muslims can do the same thing. That's why you have Sunnis and Shiites. That's why there are 33,000 distinct sects of Christianity. For supposedly inerrant books, they sure don't present a clearly understandable message.
The reason America is on Israel's side is because the crazy evangelical Christians need Israel to be around as a material component for their end-times "Summon Jesus" spell. They don't give a damn about Israel. They want to use it as a means to bring their messiah back. That's just idiotic.
Even calmly, self-satisfied, mostly meditating Budhism is not a peaceful religion.
I used to get drunk and hit on women with buddhist monks.
What, in your experience is "peaceful"?
Peaceful in general or "peaceful religion?" I am a bad candidate to answer for the later (which seems to be the question considering context of the topic) because I am an atheist.
Atheism is its own violent religion. Nobody believes otherwise.
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