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Gay men marry women and have children all the time.
Uh huh. Sham marriages. But hey, that's not for me to decide, and that's the point. People should marry the person they love, not whoever you think they should love.
Point is, some gays have flipped over to the other side. A straight man can't do that.
Point is, some gays have flipped over to the other side. A straight man can't do that.
Uh huh. Sham marriages. But hey, that's not for me to decide, and that's the point. People should marry the person they love, not whoever you think they should love.
No, a person should marry who he/she wants to marry.
I don't think your sexual orientation is a choice.
amercianwoman is implying the SS orientation is biological. Prove it.
I said 'I think' as in me, what I personally think it is, why should I prove what I think? Why don't you prove it's not biological since you are coming at me like I said it was.
I don't think it weakens the cause either. I just don't believe something that makes no sense whatsoever. Homosexuality is an attraction to the same sex. Attractions cannot be chosen.According to Merriam-Websiter, homosexuality is defined by action:
Definition of HOMOSEXUALITY
1 : the quality or state of being homosexual
2 : erotic activity with another of the same sex
So of all the homosexuals in the world, you believe that 100% of them are homosexual innately? You have not convinced me away from my assertion that the percent who are homosexual are that way by choice is greater than 0%. I do believe that for some, receiving love and affection from someone of ones same sex can influence someone's lifestyle in the same way that it can influence them when that someone if of the opposite sex.
Perhaps that possibility makes you think that that somehow weakens the homosexual cause, I do not.
I don't think it weakens the cause either. I just don't believe something that makes no sense whatsoever. Homosexuality is an attraction to the same sex. Attractions cannot be chosen.
But I'm not wrong. You don't understand the principles.
Words can have more than one meaning. You are simply equivocating.Then fight it out with Merriam-Webster.
Definition of MOUSE
1. any of numerous small rodents (as of the genus Mus) with pointed snout, rather small ears, elongated body, and slender tail
2. a timid person
3. a dark-colored swelling caused by a blow; specifically : black eye
4. plural also mous·es : a small mobile manual device that controls movement of the cursor and selection of functions on a computer display
Point is, some gays have flipped over to the other side. A straight man can't do that.
No, attention is a by-product of attraction. I am gay and a gave a girl attention for 3 years who I dated and I was never attracted to her. In fact, I was always attracted to the guys I tried not to pay attention to. The reason I tried not to pay attention to them was because I didn't want to be attracted to them.
No. Attraction is unchangeable. Don't delude yourself.
According to Merriam-Websiter, homosexuality is defined by action:
Definition of HOMOSEXUALITY
1 : the quality or state of being homosexual
2 : erotic activity with another of the same sex
So of all the homosexuals in the world, you believe that 100% of them are homosexual innately? You have not convinced me away from my assertion that the percent who are homosexual are that way by choice is greater than 0%. I do believe that for some, receiving love and affection from someone of ones same sex can influence someone's lifestyle in the same way that it can influence them when that someone if of the opposite sex.
Perhaps that possibility makes you think that that somehow weakens the homosexual cause, I do not.
It appears to me (perhaps incorrectly) that you accept in heterosexuals a basic imperative (drive?) to procreate with a member of the opposite sex. Yet you seem to imply that all someone displaying homosexual tendencies is doing is suppressing this basic imperative (for some unknown reason), thus exercising a choice not to act properly in accordance with instinctive(?) reproductive nature.
However, I think it entirely plausible that this imperative to procreate can be reversed in human genetic coding. That is because this occurs in nature as a method of reducing overpopulation in various species. That would leave homosexuals with no such drive, instead leading them to focus on neuter relationships. Thus the lack of arousal would be due to a natural resistance to female hormones released to incite sexual attraction and arousal.
I also disagree that arousal is inevitable simply because those stressors you mention are not present due to the above.
Again, the scenario I posited did not indicate stress, simply a lack of interest and arousal. The boy is fully aware of his proper role once shown, and as for being strange and alien? He’s grown up with them and in a state of nature all parties must be aware of his physical differences. In prepubescent children this typically excites curiosity, not hostility. Upon reaching sexual maturity this increases the curiosity and turns it into experimentation.
No, I was very clear that no amount of stimulation from the females effected arousal in the boy. His desire was focused on the other boy alone. As for the reason, I presented one earlier in this post. In any case fondling genitals is not an absolute guarantee of arousal in everyone, just the umm oversexed? Undersexed? I don’t know. LOL.
I'm a heterosexual but I choose abstinence since I'm no longer married. To that same degree is homosexuality a choice for gays, no more or less.This isn't about whether one is for or against gay marriage.....
Simply vote and discuss whether you believe that homosexuals have a choice in the matter, or were simply born that way, with no choice whatsoever.
Please be courteous - thanks in advance.
You're posting this 1 minute after the thread was made. Have you never made a poll? The poll does not appear with the thread. The poll has to be made after the thread is made. It takes a moment if you want it don right. Calm the **** down Mr. Eager Beaver.There's no poll.
But no, homosexuality isn't a choice. Gays can't just flip over to the other side anymore than a straight person can make himself gay.
What do you mean by "accept" in heterosexuals a basic....? I don't believe such a drive exists, even if it did, i would not believe that it could not and should not be ignored. I disagree with the second sentence ("Yet you seem...") I don't feel that way at all.
I am still thinking about what, aside from innate homosexual orientation, would cause the boy's behavior. Tough one.
If homosexuality is not a choice, then must there be genetic markers for it?
What about bisexuals? Should they also have distinct genetic markers for bisexuality?
How do people who believe that sexual orientation is not a choice explain bisexuals?
Is sexual orientation evidenced by sexual acts, falling in love (with a certain sex), or both?
Still, it is my belief that bisexuality is a distinct orientation serving as an initial expression of population control to slow growth in a developing population, and homosexuality is an expression to retard such growth.
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