I'm sure I could have checked each state individually, but that seemed like a whole lot of unnecessary work.The use of a poor source like Wikipedia aside, thank you for actually providing something. That seems to be so difficult for so many people.
Haha, are you serious? You couldn't even defeat Prop 8 in the most liberal state in the union. Give me a break.
Phoenix said:"The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious gender specific discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of the same gender resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State. "
I changed the wording in the quote to same sex instead of race. When read in this manner all the things expressed, same sex couples can do today.I don't follow your argument here. Can you explain more?
No, but if we're talking about what the majority of the nation supports, I would say that's a damn good litmus test. I mean, we're not exactly talking about the bible belt here.
Just a joke :2razz: You know, one spouse will use it as an excuse not to go see grandma....
On the serious side - I don't consider 'gay' to be biological (it's psychological, a choice, what have you) but I don't consider it be a big enough of a deal to keep people from getting married.
I just don't care that much - it's the least of my concerns when it comes to society problems and so forth.
I haven't read this long thread completely so I apologize if someone has already said this. Imo gay marriage is a constitutional right. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment demands equal treatment. Even Dick Cheney recognizes this to be true.
Seriously? Did you choose to be heterosexual? Why is it assumed that they choose, when you yourself did not choose to be heterosexual. I can get that they choose to act on it, but choose to be homosexual? :shock: Who chooses to be treated the way people in this country treat homosexuals.
Me not believing it's biological isn't a bad thing - my view is based on that fact that there's still no solid proof otherwise and until there is, that's my view.
I support non-sexual-orientation equal rights (two people can get married - gender unimportant) and that should be sufficient for people. I don't have to agree 100% with everyone's sentiments and I refuse to pretend I do.
By some believing it's biological suggests that it's genetic and can even be inherited - do you feel that's true? Do people truly believe there are genetic markers that would let someone examine a homosexual male after deal and determine his true sexual orientation?
Is there proof that we choose heterosexuality? (Seriously curious, don't know if I've ever heard/read the answer to this.)
I don't think you have to agree with me, I'm just honestly always shocked to hear/read someone say that they think people choose their sexual orientation. The way this country treats gays, I would never choose to be gay. I guess that's just how I look at it.
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