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They aren't as dignified as they used to be. Their guests say vile things.
C-SPAN is the only unbiased network.Our nation, much to our discredit, has no counter-part to BBC that I know of...
But, what about NPR and PBS....or CSpan for that matter..??
and the other networks, but NPR used to be differentPretty much par for the course for both Fox and MSNBC.
C-SPAN is the only unbiased network.
That may be so, if they're just recording what's actually going on in politics.
I'd love to see that be the norm. Just record what going on in these political houses, minute-by-minute, instead of having spokesmouths relay the data.
Watching individual events occur is meaningless without any analysis or context.
The thing is, if you just watch C-SPAN, you'll never get the entire story. Watching individual events occur is meaningless without any analysis or context. But analysis is primarily where the bias gets introduced.
Context helps (depending on what you're watching and why). You don't need "analysis." You can (and should) do that yourself.
What's wonderful these days is that regardless of where you get your news, there are checks and balances so that you can clarify, confirm, or reject a particular POV or analysis.
Most regular people don't have the time nor the inclination to "analyze" issues themselves - they'd have to be following the news extensively and closely, as well as possess some historical knowledge, in order to put events in the proper context and analyze them appropriately. Hence why news organizations rely on panelists and experts, most of whom indeed have their own biases.
If Fox "news" "fair and balanced"?
Is that a freaking joke.
Was fascist propaganda "fair and balanced" to the Jews?
While this is true, many people are simply too lazy (physically, or intellectually) to check these sources out for themselves. That's more on individual people than the news media though.
Do you have to ruin this thread by Godwining?
If you follow the news closely enough, you already have the context. You could do the analysis yourself, but even if you're interested in other people's analysis, that's a form of commentary, and shouldn't be mixed with the news.The thing is, if you just watch C-SPAN, you'll never get the entire story. Watching individual events occur is meaningless without any analysis or context. But analysis is primarily where the bias gets introduced.
Actually, there's not much of a difference between their entertainment section and the news section.The news section is about as "fair and balanced" as any other news station. The news "entertainment" section however is about as far right as you can go.
Fox uses pretty much every textbook dishonest rhetoric technique. They rely on misinformation, misdirection, outright lies, ad homenim, straw man arguments, backhanded comments, repetition, ad populum, doublespeak, emotional appeals... And that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
No matter what ideology you hold, or what political positions you espouse, Fox News does not report honestly. Especially not by calling the whole station "News" and making their prime time programming "opinion shows" that are disguised as news shows. They do everything that journalists are trained not to do.
An earlier post got me thinking: What is it with the liberal media's fascination with federal prisons? I caught two of my foster kids riveted to an MSNBC story about two gay inmates sharing a kiss on the yard. Do liberals enjoy this kind of trash? Is this your idea of educating the masses about cultural diversity?
Well, I do have a journalist hat that I occasionally wear, and I disagree. If you really think that Fox is somehow alone in its alleged failing to be "fair and balanced," then I suggest that you check Newsbusters.com every single day and sift through the partisan claims about how MSNBC and various partisan talking-heads skew the news. Do you do this?
Is Fox News Fair And Balanced as their slogan tends to claim?
Where do you get that he thinks FOX news is alone in failing to be fair and balanced? Seems to me he was just staying on topic.
Gosh, it must be this:
"Fox uses pretty much every textbook dishonest rhetoric technique. They rely on misinformation, misdirection, outright lies, ad homenim, straw man arguments, backhanded comments, repetition, ad populum, doublespeak, emotional appeals... And that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
No matter what ideology you hold, or what political positions you espouse, Fox News does not report honestly. Especially not by calling the whole station "News" and making their prime time programming "opinion shows" that are disguised as news shows. They do everything that journalists are trained not to do."
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