kaya'08
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In terms of freedom I don't think it's as free as the US. When it comes to criticizing the government, the US is more free. The US is also more free when it comes to protesting. Depending on the country, there are laws in place that damage free speech by calling dissenting opinions hate speech (like speaking against homosexuals, Islam, etc.) Looking at the EU as a whole, I would say that the US is more free.
Dont forget the second amendment.
Any place where the right to bear arms is so egregiously and consistently violated cannot be called "free", not by any stretch of the imagination.
Just curious. If somebody was to rob your house, and you killed the robber, does it constitute a prison sentence? In the UK, you cant touch a robber. Even if he ties your family up or threatens you.
but not everywhere thinks thats a right...
Just curious. If somebody was to rob your house, and you killed the robber, does it constitute a prison sentence?
In the UK, you cant touch a robber. Even if he ties your family up or threatens you.
What's ironic is that after Australia banned guns, violent crimes rose. AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN. Criminals can still get guns via the black market, law abiding citizens are denied their rights to defend themselves with a suitable weapon when guns are banned.
Well, they're wrong. I have a right to defend myself, despite what you may think. Any country which denies this right is not free.
but america still have almost 4 times australia when it comes to murders per capita Murders (per capita) statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
and almost 10 times more murders with firearms Murders with firearms (per capita) by country. Definition, graph and map.
plus we havn't had a massacre since the gun ban started, no-ones shot up a pub, or a school, so overall i'd say we're safer without 'em
but america still have almost 4 times australia when it comes to murders per capita Murders (per capita) statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
and almost 10 times more murders with firearms Murders with firearms (per capita) by country. Definition, graph and map.
plus we havn't had a massacre since the gun ban started, no-ones shot up a pub, or a school, so overall i'd say we're safer without 'em
Well, they're wrong. I have a right to defend myself, despite what you may think. Any country which denies this right is not free.
and what, you're incapable of defending yourself without a gun?
i feel safer when i wander the city at night because i know that if someones gonna try and mug me, they're going to use a knife, which is much easier to defend against than a gun
That depends on your definition of what free is. If you define being "free" as having the rights to posses a gun, then your definition of being "free" is very narrow. The term free is used to describe a set of circumstances, not just one, or two, but many. A "free" country will not necessarily meet all the circumstances used to define "free", therefore we measure our freedom as the "level of freedom". The gun issue in Europe makes us less free than the US. It doesn't make us devoid of freedom.
True freedom cannot exist where the state has a monopoly on violence. How can you insure your other freedoms when you have no recourse to defend them?
from that statement, i'd question how free you are if you live in fear of the government...
...and your only recourse is violence
True freedom cannot exist where the state has a monopoly on violence. How can you insure your other freedoms when you have no recourse to defend them?
Yes, they also have a legal monopoly over there citizens. So if they wish to use there monopoly of "violence" on us, then they will be sure to use there "legal" monopoly to ban guns before they do it.
Just curious. If somebody was to rob your house, and you killed the robber, does it constitute a prison sentence? In the UK, you cant touch a robber. Even if he ties your family up or threatens you.
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