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Jerry Brown was behind Horizontal Harris.
Warren and sanders are essentially the same candidate splitting the same demo. If one of them were to drop out, Biden would be behind. Bernie needs to exit stage left.
Gabbard is about as left/progressive as Sanders/Warren in case that wasn't evident; she just has more of a foreign policy focus.
Hmm, I tend to agree that Warren and Sanders are basically the same candidate. You can probably add Harris to that mix. I don't know who'll be the Democratic nominee, I feel that it won't be Biden. Call it a gut feeling without numbers to back it up. I wouldn't put too much stock in my gut feeling though, it told me the GOP would never nominate an 8 time party switcher either.
I disagree Surrealistik, Gabbard is left for sure but not to the levels of bat**** crazy as Sanders and Warren. Right now she has been called into military service for the next two weeks. But hey you don't like Gabbard? What about the former CEO of Starbucks who pretty much said earlier this year he would run as an independent if his party chose some left progressive as an alternative. I don't think the DNC wants to see that happen.
Hmm, I tend to agree that Warren and Sanders are basically the same candidate. You can probably add Harris to that mix. I don't know who'll be the Democratic nominee, I feel that it won't be Biden. Call it a gut feeling without numbers to back it up. I wouldn't put too much stock in my gut feeling though, it told me the GOP would never nominate an 8 time party switcher either.
Go check our her policies then if you don't believe she's about on par with Bernie and Warren; I don't think it's really a matter of opinion.
Personally I love Gabbard for them.
Obviously her platform isn't identical, but it's close enough.
While you did not like my suggestions of Gabbard as an alternative, it really isn't important what candidate the movers and shakers put their millions behind when Biden fizzles. They will all get behind a candidate and it will not be Sanders or Warren.
Exactly. Biden cannot withstand a second one.Perceptions.
I don't think Biden will ever run out of gas,but if the Democratic Party were to grow a brain, they'd realize Biden is their only gasbag that could possibly beat Trump. Why? Because at heart, Biden is a moderate.
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Yep. Biden there is the kind of candidate the Dems need, in order to take down Trump.
But Biden's past his prime, and needs to pass the torch. I think Kamala could easily go toe-to-toe with Trump, but it looks like the Dems don't want her like I do.
As we saw in the 2016 election, it's not going to be as much about policy, as it will be about personal charisma as expressed through public sparring. Honestly, I thought Oprah was the Dem's best bet against Trump. But it was not meant to be, it seems.
Most elderly people have no shortage of gas. Bernie is probably eating boiled cabbage to outpace Joe. That's dedication, right there. Joe.might want to consider pinto beans and kale in response.
Ole Uncle Joe like anyone at his age has limited energy. He has to pace himself wisely to get through the primary which can be very grueling for even younger candidates. That isn't a cut but rather a fact of life.
Uncle Joe has another problem with embellishing his stories for example his involvement in civil rights and constantly making gaffs that make him look incompetent.
But Uncle Joe's biggest threat is ahead coming in September and that is all I will say about it at this time. I believe the party will be in search of a centrist/left candidate that has no ties to the Obama administration by the end of September. Maybe a Gabbard or a Delany because they know they will lose a national election with Sanders, Warren and pretty much most of the candidates in the top 7 at this time because of the far left progressive agenda they have aligned themselves with.
Really? Why not just go with Quarter Pounders and Big Macs? Seems to keep Trump's tank full.
I see Biden's biggest asset (his "delectability" - currently having high polling numbers) as being his sure downfall. Once Biden loses that to anyone else (like Warren) who also polls ahead of Trump among "independents" then he is done for. The DNC base then has both a progressive and a candidate who beats Trump (based on polling data).
I don't think Biden will be the nominee either, but I pretty much called Trump from early on. I don't love Booker, but I think he would have the best shot against Trump. Otherwise I am afraid it is going to be 4 more years unless the DNC reels in a new candidate by December or a well-financed moderate independent gets in. If I were a democratic heavyweight, I would be doing everything I could to get someone like Mark Warner into this race.
“In my generation, when I got out of school, when Bobby Kennedy and Dr. King had been assassinated in the 70s, the late 70s, I got engaged,”
“Up to that time, you remember—none of you women will remember this, but a couple men will remember it, That was the time in the early to late 60s, in the early 60s, the 60s, when it was, ‘Drop out, go to Haight-Ashbury, don’t get engaged, don’t trust anyone over 30.'"
Biden has a good lead nationally, up by 14 points over Sanders and 15 over Warren in today's released CNN poll. Here's the RCP averages which includes CNN.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Nationally can give us an indication, but it is in the states that the nomination will be decided. I have always thought Biden led was mostly name recognition along with the fact Joe seems like a safe candidate to beat Trump. At least at this point in time.
Even so, I never thought Biden would win the Democratic nomination. I think Biden is too much the moderate and old fashioned Democrat who actually could work with Republicans to get things accomplished. I highly doubt that is what the progressive wing of the Democratic Party wants. It's the hard core progressives that flock to the polls during the primaries and caucuses. I think once the primaries get started, Biden fads into retirement.
Warren and sanders are essentially the same candidate splitting the same demo. If one of them were to drop out, Biden would be behind. Bernie needs to exit stage left.
Ole Uncle Joe like anyone at his age has limited energy. He has to pace himself wisely to get through the primary which can be very grueling for even younger candidates. That isn't a cut but rather a fact of life.
Uncle Joe has another problem with embellishing his stories for example his involvement in civil rights and constantly making gaffs that make him look incompetent.
But Uncle Joe's biggest threat is ahead coming in September and that is all I will say about it at this time. I believe the party will be in search of a centrist/left candidate that has no ties to the Obama administration by the end of September. Maybe a Gabbard or a Delany because they know they will lose a national election with Sanders, Warren and pretty much most of the candidates in the top 7 at this time because of the far left progressive agenda they have aligned themselves with.
I disagree Surrealistik, Gabbard is left for sure but not to the levels of bat**** crazy as Sanders and Warren. Right now she has been called into military service for the next two weeks. But hey you don't like Gabbard? What about the former CEO of Starbucks who pretty much said earlier this year he would run as an independent if his party chose some left progressive as an alternative. I don't think the DNC wants to see that happen.
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