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Donkey1499 said:Atheism follows a belief, just like any other religion/cult. Atheisms' belief is that anything superstitious is wrong or insane or whatnot. So, imagine if atheism was the dominant belief in America, or the only belief allowed. Then everyone would be forced to believe that all religions/cults are wrong, 'cept atheism.
Deegan said:Does atheism have an "eschatology? Eschatology is a "belief about the end of the world or the last things." Now, I'm sure that many atheists have some sort of beliefs about how the world might end, but those beliefs sure aren't clearly defined or uniform among all of us.
AlbqOwl said:Atheists base their beliefs on what they have taught and a mixture of experience and faith. Atheists are unable to PROVE their beliefs to the the religious.
independent_thinker2002 said:Atheism isn't a religion/cult. It doesn't follow a belief. It is the default position. There are no supernatural powers at play, just reality.
independent_thinker2002 said:How are atheists taught what to believe? They are not indoctrinated. You can't prove the flyhing spaghetti monster doesn't exist. You can't prove a negative. The burden is upon those who claim something exists. I don't believe in Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster either.
independent_thinker2002 said:How are atheists taught what to believe? They are not indoctrinated. You can't prove the flyhing spaghetti monster doesn't exist. You can't prove a negative. The burden is upon those who claim something exists. I don't believe in Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster either.
Donkey1499 said:How can I put this....... Atheism's belief is that Darwin, science text books, and mircoscopes can prove that God(s) don't exist, yet, if you can't see them, then how can you disprove them? You can't prove/disprove the unprovable! Even though that could be false in SOME situations; like just because you can't see oxygen with the naked eye, it doesn't mean that it ain't there!
Donkey1499 said:Atheists are taught by liberal professors that any belief in any God(s) is complete hogwash. Yet they can't prove it to be hogwash.
independent_thinker2002 said:This atheist doesn't follow others like a sheep. I use reason and logic to arrive at my conclusions. I was an atheist before I had any liberal professors.
independent_thinker2002 said:No, you can't prove that something doesn't exist, only that it does. But until god is proven to exist, I, myself, will believe that man created god as the first form of science and government.
AlbqOwl said:Of course you can't prove a negative but in this case neither can the believer prove the positive either. Yet both fervently try. Go onto any of these message boards where stuff like this is being discussed, and you'll find the atheists in there pitching their nonbelief and trying to show how the believers are all wet and how atheism is superior to Christianity etc. There is no more fervent preacher for their belief than a committed Atheist. It's all religion, just expressed differently.
Donkey1499 said:I'm sure that you didn't just pull your "logic and reason" out of your ass. You've had to heard it somewhere.
Donkey1499 said:I see the Bible and the various creations around me as proof of God's existence. But that's just what I believe. To me, evolution from single-celled organisms is an impossibility without outside manipulation. Single cell organisms are near perfect in their state, so why would they want to evolve when there is no motive or reason to? Also, how did the single-cell organisms even get there in the first place? did they just appear out of thin air? Another impossibility.
independent_thinker2002 said:No, that is how people are indoctrinated into religion.
independent_thinker2002 said:Perhaps christians are the ones who think that they are the superior ones. You seem to think if someone comes to a debating forum and debates a topic with fervor and zeal, then that topic is a religion. This is not true. Atheists don't market their ideas as religions do. I do enjoy debating and with zeal. I don't go around trying to attain sheep for my flock so I can feel safety in numbers.
independent_thinker2002 said:A book is not proof of fact. The DaVinci Code is not fact even though idiots think that it is (it was published as fiction). I have never seen anything with a "Made by God" tag on it. Your threshold for what is "proof" is rather weak. Are you an expert on microbiology or is this another low threshold for what is proof and a possibility.
Donkey1499 said:Tell me, please. Where did you get your reason and logic from, then? Don't be ashamed. And I don't care that you're an atheist. I just want to know what made you an atheist. Then I'll tell you why I'm a christian, if you care to know.
I'm not an evangelist, like the ones that try to recruit more christians. I'll give you the materials if you want to learn it, but you have to approach me about it. And learning it doesn't mean that you have to believe it, but at least have some info on the "opposition". Atheism is the belief in an unbelief, is there anything more to that?
Donkey1499 said:Why so vindictive towards the Bible? Can you say with 100% certainty that the Bible is false. No. But you can believe it is wrong. Can I say that the Bible is 100% truth? No, but I can believe that it is.
I've read a book on microbiology (Cuz their was nothing else to read). There had to of been an outside manipulative force to get them to evolve.
independent_thinker2002 said:I was raised christian and have studied other religions as well. Tell me, how many religions did you research before you chose to be a christian? I have plenty of info on the "opposition".
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