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Don't confuse some good things he did with being good.
Don't confuse some good things he did with being good.IMO, he became an extremist .. he was "good" at first , but then got carried away ..
Evil men should be stomped out and if they were the world would be a better place. I just do not understand why you think evil should be not only tolerated but accepted as normal.
Because it IS normal. You and I aren't going to change that. I don't "tolerate" it, because it is not under my control. I take my own two cents worth out of the equation, which is the only thing that anyone can do. You go on thinking you can change the world by killing evil men, though, if that's what you want to believe. There is something bigger than you and I.
Because it IS normal. You and I aren't going to change that. I don't "tolerate" it, because it is not under my control. I take my own two cents worth out of the equation, which is the only thing that anyone can do. You go on thinking you can change the world by killing evil men, though, if that's what you want to believe. There is something bigger than you and I.
Assassinating an evil man is control and to not do so is tolerating him. If you see a man raping your daughter you stop him and kill him. If you see a man raping humanity do you not do the same?
Never justified in a democracy, where the ballot box can be used to get rid of a tyrant or despot. It may be utilized in political systems where there's no other way to get rid of a despot.
Assassinating an evil man is control and to not do so is tolerating him. If you see a man raping your daughter you stop him and kill him. If you see a man raping humanity do you not do the same?
Yes, in that case, with a man raping my daughter, I will kill him, if it is within my ability. Are you aware of just how many attempts were made on Hitler's life? Do you not get what I am saying, which is that certain things are beyond our control?
Hitler was elected in a democracy.
Hitler was elected in a democracy.
Anti-Jewish emotions are on the rise again in this country. How much will our Hitler require to begin rounding up any Jew who does not support him? Granted that will not be very many American Jews. Many appear to be self-loathing Israel haters.By the way, I already know that antisemitic sentiments were already beginning to peak in Germany in the beginning of the 20th century, I'm just wondering how much Hitler was required to take those sentiments to the next level.
Anti-Jewish emotions are on the rise again in this country. How much will our Hitler require to begin rounding up any Jew who does not support him? Granted that will not be very many American Jews. Many appear to be self-loathing Israel haters.
Anti-Jewish emotions are on the rise again in this country. How much will our Hitler require to begin rounding up any Jew who does not support him? Granted that will not be very many American Jews. Many appear to be self-loathing Israel haters.
And he did it all without a teleprompter.To do what hitler did you needed to have someone who the German people nearly worshiped as a savior. Hitler had that very rare ability to mesmerize a crowd and ultimately a country. People like that are few and far between
So what? How many elections were held after he took office? He seized absolute power almost immediately. Holding a free election does not make a democracy. It's holding the second, third, and subsequent elections that make a democracy.
That's actually not true. He was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg. In 1932 Hitler lost to Hindenburg.
Exactly my point, a tyrant worth assassinating can rise to power through a democracy
Right, but whether he elected (as many think) or appointed, that aspect is so misunderstood and so overplayed. Hitler gaining power through legitimate avenues was not his first choice, it was merely a calculated means to an end.That's actually not true. He was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg. In 1932 Hitler lost to Hindenburg.
I will research that.
Right, but whether he elected (as many think) or appointed, that aspect is so misunderstood and so overplayed. Hitler gaining power through legitimate avenues was not his first choice, it was merely a calculated means to an end.
First impeachment. Then conviction and removal from office. Then arrest him for treason, for waging war openly and brazenly against the American citizen, the nation and the Constitution. Once convicted seek the death penalty in the punishment phase.People have a love affair with the notion that if the head falls, the body will die, like in science fiction movies where every time the mother ship is destroyed all the other ships will be rendered inactive, kill the head vampire and the other vampires die or turn back to human, blow up the Death Star and the Empire crumbles, kill the Witch and Oz is saved. And it's almost certainly the same mentality that concludes that if you assassinate a head of state then his entire command structure, line of succession and ideology all go with him. Has it actually happened this way in history? I'm sure, but the message you should have gotten from this thread is that a command structure, line of succession and ideology almost always prop up that head of state, and the murder of that leader usually a)solves nothing, b)creates a power vacuum resulting in more chaos, or c)creates a martyr, which of all the outcomes can potentially be the worst possible thing for your cause. Are you so certain you would want Obama...I'm sorry, I mean Hitler...to be martyred?
That's not what I said.There was nothing kosher about Hitler's rise to power.
First impeachment. Then conviction and removal from office. Then arrest him for treason, for waging war openly and brazenly against the American citizen, the nation and the Constitution. Once convicted seek the death penalty in the punishment phase.
That's not what I said.
Neither the Nazis nor Hitler were elected democratically. That they were is a myth.
Seems like he was elected pres but then went on to seize ever more power.
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"On this day in 1934, Adolf Hitler, already chancellor, is also elected president of Germany in an unprecedented consolidation of power in the short history of the republic."
Adolf Hitler becomes president of Germany — History.com This Day in History — 8/19/1934
He used the electoral process to gain seats/power in the Reichstag, and eventually to set himself in a position to be appointed. His underlying tactics in gaining popularity to secure votes were often criminal, but using the electoral process in and of itself was legit.I meant that there were no "legitimate avenues" to his rise to power.
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