Air Force Plane carrying Pete Hegseth makes emergency landing.

[Tangmo]

 

[Jason Warfield]

Or, maybe it’s because the plane is almost 30 years old and mechanical issues happen to machines fairly often.

Or perhaps instead of spending money on changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War, spending money on shipping top brass for a meeting that could've been an email memo and then sending them back, spending money on changing base names back to the MAGA-preferred style of wokeism, spending money on a weak-ass parade, etc...

That money could have been spent on a proper plane befitting the Secretary's position, or at least a newer plane dedicated to his use as opposed to something that is 30 plus years old.

 

[Tangmo]

Actually the more 30 year old planes Kegseth flies in the better.

Saves money and stuff.

Cause it looks like Heggie The Keggie will be SecWAR indefinitely given Trump & MAGAs are arranging voting and elections to their liking indefinitely.

 

[Peter]

Planes have technical issues all the time.
I don't see a problem here.

Belgium were supposed to just get 4 shiny new F-35's but one is stuck somehere on route due to a technical problem on route to delivery.
It happens.

Only three F-35s arrived in Belgium on delivery flight, the fourth is stranded in middle of Atlantic

Belgium officially welcomed only three of its first four F-35 Lightning II fighter jets at Florennes Air Base on Monday, October 13.

airlive.net

 

[SavannahMann]

Planes have technical issues all the time.
I don't see a problem here.

Belgium were supposed to just get 4 shiny new F-35's but one is stuck somehere on route due to a technical problem on route to delivery.
It happens.

Only three F-35s arrived in Belgium on delivery flight, the fourth is stranded in middle of Atlantic

Belgium officially welcomed only three of its first four F-35 Lightning II fighter jets at Florennes Air Base on Monday, October 13.

airlive.net

I’m not surprised about the F-35. They have an availability rate of just over 50%. In other words, the odds are just a hair better than a coin toss that the plane will actually fly.

 

[OrphanSlug]

These things happen, good that everyone got to a destination safe.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The culprit C-32A on the ground at the UK RAF base Mildenhall after its in air emergency.

Actually there were two in-flight emergencies. One was the windscreen crack that put the air pressure to the test; the second being that the Asshat Hegseth The Horrible was on board being his Asshat Self.

We know Hegseth is a standing joke and one in Washington goes this way:
If Hegseth fell into the Potomac it would be a disaster.
If someone fished him out again it would be a calamity.

A U.S. Air Force C-32A carrying Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth back from today’s meeting of NATO Defense Chiefs in Brussels, Belgium, was forced to descend to under 10,000ft and divert to RAF Mildenhall in England earlier due to a cracked windscreen, which reportedly caused concerns about pressurization prior to crossing the Atlantic. A C-17A accompanying the C-32A also landed at Mildenhall and will likely transport Secretary Hegseth the remainder of the journey back to the United States.

Meanwhile, back in the Nation's Capital.....another C-32 also had its concerns....

C-32 Forced To Delay Landing After F-16s Scrambled To Intercept Drone Near Capital

The incident took place as President Donald Trump has vowed to provide more details about mysterious drones.

www.twz.com

Damn, now you arreaching. The incident in the Capital airspace was back in JANUARY. That was NINE MONTHS AGO. And it is not unusual for an airfield to have to delay inbound traffic when there is an alert launch, plus the fact that a C-32A was in n approach (not even final) had nothing to do with the incident.

 

[Tangmo]

Damn, now you arreaching. The incident in the Capital airspace was back in JANUARY. That was NINE MONTHS AGO. And it is not unusual for an airfield to have to delay inbound traffic when there is an alert launch, plus the fact that a C-32A was in n approach (not even final) had nothing to do with the incident.

Which seems to have given stillbirth to your overwrought post.

I pointed out the unknown fact that independently another Air Force C-32A had to delay its landing at Andrews Air Force Base because of F-16s scrambling due to a drone over the Nation's Capital. In January, yes. Andrews AFB is a 30 minute drive from Washington Reagan National Airport and way less than that as the crow flies.

Also in January for Washington Reagan National, there was this that your post seems to have gone blank about....





So I'd suggest each you and I can operate in his own lane. I mean, I don't try to tell you which screwdriver to use to keep machines running whatever they may be.....

Because you don't.

And I have better things to do than to try to nag any specific person over petty nothings.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Which seems to have given stillbirth to your overwrought post.

I pointed out the unknown fact that independently another Air Force C-32A had to delay its landing at Washington Reagan National Airport because of F-16s scrambling due to a drone over the Nation's Capital. In January, yes.

Also in January for Washington Reagan National, there was this that your post seems to have gone blank about....





So I'd suggest each you and I can operate in his own lane. I mean, I don't try to tell you which screwdriver to use to keep machines running whatever they may be.....

Because you don't.

And I have better things to do than to try to nag any specific person over petty nothings.

I just pointed out the idiocy of your post. A delayed landing due to an alert launch is in no way comparable to a precautionary landing for a cracked windscreen.

But heh, I guess my 2,000+ hours of military flying means that I know less than someone who used to march around in circles.

Try staying in your own lane.

 

[Gaius46]

The OP said "apparently", he didn't say the word was in the article. Are you saying a cracked windshield would have no effect on the pressure in the plane?

It would not. Air leaks out in proportion to the size of the hole (assuming the crack actually let air escape).

The differential pressure between the pressurized interior and the ambient external pressure would be a concern and is why they descended.

 

[Tangmo]

I just pointed out the idiocy of your post. A delayed landing due to an alert launch is in no way comparable to a precautionary landing for a cracked windscreen.

But heh, I guess my 2,000+ hours of military flying means that I know less than someone who used to march around in circles.

Try staying in your own lane.

I don't need to have a pilot's license to know flight paths can get thick in concentrated urban metro areas. This is common knowledge.

Within a 60mi radius of the Washington Monument there are:
Dulles International Airport in Va.
Washington Reagan National Airport in Va. at the Potomac
Andrews AFB in MD
Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport in MD

Taking off from Reagan and Andrews the ascent is so steep my stomach is always in my arse. Pilots have to get up high and fast given the volume of air traffic at lower altitudes.


There are numerous area / regional airports in the Washington DC SMSA. Indeed, Washington DC and Baltimore MD have long since sprawled outward toward each other to meet at last to become a single megalopolis and its tangle of state and federal government jurisdictions.

Decades ago two military airfields were inactivated to reduce the air traffic in the region, each of 'em in DC: Bolling AFB and the Naval Air Station Anacostia across the Anacostia River from the Washington Navy Yard -- and where the Anacostia River from MD joins the Potomac River, which point is in turn across from Reagan National at the South bank of the Potomac and Ft. Leslie J. McNair and its Army Aviation helos at its north bank.


My view comes from the ground up to include being a commercial passenger through Reagan National numerous times, as a military passenger with others from Andrews to several military bases over time; and in Army Aviation helos in the DC airspace.

Your posts and my posts are in completely opposite lanes in everything. Accordingly, the right and proper thing is that you get your respect and I get mine. Indeed the latest statement I've seen about Kegseth's C-32 plane is the broad and sweeping cover of it being "a plane problem." It's not quite the Titanic having "its ship problem" but it was an emergency of a kind.

I'd suggest btw that if you're talking air travel it might be a good idea to shed all modesty and humility to advise people up front you are a pilot etc etc. On that and a burst of technical piloting/flying talk, I would accept you at your word.

 

[JMB1911A1]

I don't need to have a pilot's license to know flight paths can get thick in concentrated urban metro areas. This is common knowledge.

Within a 60mi radius of the Washington Monument there are:
Dulles International Airport in Va.
Washington Reagan National Airport in Va. at the Potomac
Andrews AFB in MD
Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport in MD

Taking off from Reagan and Andrews the ascent is so steep my stomach is always in my arse. Pilots have to get up high and fast given the volume of air traffic at lower altitudes.


There are numerous area / regional airports in the Washington DC SMSA. Indeed, Washington DC and Baltimore MD have long since sprawled outward toward each other to meet at last to become a single megalopolis and its tangle of state and federal government jurisdictions.

Decades ago two military airfields were inactivated to reduce the air traffic in the region, each of 'em in DC: Bolling AFB and the Naval Air Station Anacostia across the Anacostia River from the Washington Navy Yard -- and where the Anacostia River from MD joins the Potomac River, which point is in turn across from Reagan National at the South bank of the Potomac and Ft. Leslie J. McNair and its Army Aviation helos at its north bank.


My view comes from the ground up to include being a commercial passenger through Reagan National numerous times, as a military passenger with others from Andrews to several military bases over time; and in Army Aviation helos in the DC airspace.

Your posts and my posts are in completely opposite lanes in everything. Accordingly, the right and proper thing is that you get your respect and I get mine. Indeed the latest statement I've seen about Kegseth's C-32 plane is the broad and sweeping cover of it being "a plane problem." It's not quite the Titanic having "its ship problem" but it was an emergency of a kind.

I'd suggest btw that if you're talking air travel it might be a good idea to shed all modesty and humility to advise people up front you are a pilot etc etc. On that and a burst of technical piloting/flying talk, I would accept you at your word.

OK.

BTW, I am still trying to figure out what a C-32A having to take a vector to delay an approach due to an alert launch has to do with another C-32A making a precautionary landing for a cracked windscreen nine months later. Since you bought up the previous incident, maybe you can enlighten us?

 

[Tangmo]

OK.

BTW, I am still trying to figure out what a C-32A having to take a vector to delay an approach due to an alert launch has to do with another C-32A making a precautionary landing for a cracked windscreen nine months later. Since you bought up the previous incident, maybe you can enlighten us?

You belabor the point I'm afraid. A unifying factor or two are Kegseth, the military, the C-32. As I posted, the two C-32 craft having to make flight adjustments.

Indeed, I'm looking at the bigger picture rather than viewing the C-32A as if I were the pilot of a single plane focused on a need to "take a vector" or to "make a precautionary landing" as if there were nothing else about the whole of it. Neither is timing a determining factor I'm afraid -- you're sounding like the newspaper editors I used to work for. I'm not reporting news any more which anyway was decades ago.

While my point was not intended to be earth shattering, nor has it become earth shattering, it does make a common connection, which is the military C-32, Kegseth at the P:entagon and the Potomac, Kegseth flying back from a NATO meeting in Europe with plane trouble; a C-32A delayed landing at Andrews due to F-16s scrambling because to a drone in the crowded DC airspace, and the January accident into the Potomac from out of the crowded DC airspace. None of which changes the world while all of which make Kegseth a character out of Charlie Brown.

You the pilot on his single vector tunnel doesn't get what I'm doing then you don't get what I was doing which means for you to keep the line moving plse thx. I've stayed in this one single spot more than long enough.

 

[Gaius46]

You belabor the point I'm afraid. A unifying factor or two are Kegseth, the military, the C-32. As I posted, the two C-32 craft having to make flight adjustments.

Indeed, I'm looking at the bigger picture rather than viewing the C-32A as if I were the pilot of a single plane focused on a need to "take a vector" or to "make a precautionary landing" as if there were nothing else about the whole of it. Neither is timing a determining factor I'm afraid -- you're sounding like the newspaper editors I used to work for. I'm not reporting news any more which anyway was decades ago.

While my point was not intended to be earth shattering, nor has it become earth shattering, it does make a common connection, which is the military C-32, Kegseth at the P:entagon and the Potomac, Kegseth flying back from a NATO meeting in Europe with plane trouble; a C-32A delayed landing at Andrews due to F-16s scrambling because to a drone in the crowded DC airspace, and the January accident into the Potomac from out of the crowded DC airspace. None of which changes the world while all of which make Kegseth a character out of Charlie Brown.

You the pilot on his single vector tunnel doesn't get what I'm doing then you don't get what I was doing which means for you to keep the line moving plse thx. I've stayed in this one single spot more than long enough.

Gotta admit I'm with @JMB1911A1 on this. But I'm a pilot as well and from my potentially limited pilot's perspective I see two totally unrelated incidents that only coincidentally have the C32 and Hegseth in common. Unless you are suggesting maintenance/staffing issues or similar caused both.
Or that Hegseth is unlucky.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Gotta admit I'm with @JMB1911A1 on this. But I'm a pilot as well and from my potentially limited pilot's perspective I see two totally unrelated incidents that only coincidentally have the C32 and Hegseth in common. Unless you are suggesting maintenance/staffing issues or similar caused both.
Or that Hegseth is unlucky.

And there is zero information that Secretary Hegseth was onboard the C-32A that had a delayed landing nine months ago.

 

[Moon]

Or perhaps instead of spending money on changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War, spending money on shipping top brass for a meeting that could've been an email memo and then sending them back, spending money on changing base names back to the MAGA-preferred style of wokeism, spending money on a weak-ass parade, etc...

That money could have been spent on a proper plane befitting the Secretary's position, or at least a newer plane dedicated to his use as opposed to something that is 30 plus years old.

This is a perfectly fine airplane for Hegseth’s use. Expecting that any machine is going to work perfectly over decades is a little bizarre.

 

[Tangmo]

And there is zero information that Secretary Hegseth was onboard the C-32A that had a delayed landing nine months ago.

I made no such claim that Kegseth was on the C-32A of 9 months ago. There is zero information since the time 9 months ago that Kegseth was on that plane. Kegseth was not on that plane and I never said Kegseth was on the plane.

Kegseth.

Indeed, your MAGA posts are noted....

....As being MAGA make believe posts. MAGAs themselves don't ever believe other MAGAs because all MAGAs know that all MAGAs lie all the time about everything and anything.


MAGA !

 

[Tangmo]

Gotta admit I'm with @JMB1911A1 on this. But I'm a pilot as well and from my potentially limited pilot's perspective I see two totally unrelated incidents that only coincidentally have the C32 and Hegseth in common. Unless you are suggesting maintenance/staffing issues or similar caused both.
Or that Hegseth is unlucky.

With all due respect it looks like you're copilot around here right now. I hope your being impressed into service might not be as painful as it can sound.

Either way your pilot's post is in the same pilot's enclosed vector tunnel as the other pilot. It's the pilot and the enclosed vector tunnel and that's it I'm afraid. Apparently there's nothing else or but.

My posts have taken place in the environs of events or incidents involving Kegseth, two of the C-32 aircraft landing in UK or also being delayed in its landing at Andrews AFB outside Washington; the Potomac, the Pentagon and the Army helo that in the nighttime crashed into a civilian passenger airliner that plunged both of 'em into the Potomac from where the Pentagon is a stone's throw from the horrendously fatal crash point.

Indeed the thread headlines Kegseth so I thought I'd go with that. It's not about pilots izzit.

 

[JMB1911A1]

I made no such claim that Kegseth was on the C-32A of 9 months ago. There is zero information since the time 9 months ago that Kegseth was on that plane. Kegseth was not on that plane and I never said Kegseth was on the plane.

Kegseth.

Indeed, your MAGA posts are noted....

....As being MAGA make believe posts. MAGAs themselves don't ever believe other MAGAs because all MAGAs know that all MAGAs lie all the time about everything and anything.


MAGA !

You ****ing contradicted yourself on your very next post. Your hatred is so evident to anyone on this sight.

With all due respect it looks like you're copilot around here right now. I hope your being impressed into service might not be as painful as it can sound.

Either way your pilot's post is in the same pilot's enclosed vector tunnel as the other pilot. It's the pilot and the enclosed vector tunnel and that's it I'm afraid. Apparently there's nothing else or but.

My posts have taken place in the environs of events or incidents involving Kegseth, two of the C-32 aircraft landing in UK or also being delayed in its landing at Andrews AFB outside Washington; the Potomac, the Pentagon and the Army helo that in the nighttime crashed into a civilian passenger airliner that plunged both of 'em into the Potomac from where the Pentagon is a stone's throw from the horrendously fatal crash point.

Indeed the thread headlines Kegseth so I thought I'd go with that. It's not about pilots izzit.

 

[Tangmo]

Wow.

Then there's this instead....

 

[JMB1911A1]

Wow.

Then there's this instead....

Were they in the Old Guard? That could explain the cluelessness.

 

[Tangmo]

Now Now

It's going on 6p CST and I"m going to have dinner.

In peace.

Wash my hands of the day's work beforehand of course.