IRS begins sharing sensitive taxpayer data with immigration authorities to find undocumented migrants

[L88]

Nobody is tolerating abuse and law enforcement has always gone after cartels. You're presenting a false narrative.

On the other hand, migrants and refugees have their own reasons and needs and these shouldn't be dismissed on such flimsy grounds.

There's nothing flimsy about it. Cartels are taking over Mexico, killing politicians and anybody in their way. Allowing Cartels to bring people in is feeding them billions a year.

On the other hand, instead of worrying about Europe and Asia and spending money there. We show be fostering economic development in Latin America. We should be trying to get everything made in China and India made in Latin America. It will decrease the oppressive poverty.

For Decades, Leftwingers have fought against international economic development.

 

[uptower]

There's nothing flimsy about it. Cartels are taking over Mexico, killing politicians and anybody in their way. Allowing Cartels to bring people in is feeding them billions a year.

On the other hand, instead of worrying about Europe and Asia and spending money there. We show be fostering economic development in Latin America. We should be trying to get everything made in China and India made in Latin America. It will decrease the oppressive poverty.

For Decades, Leftwingers have fought against international economic development.

Pfft. Cool Story Bro

 

[OpportunityCost]

Yes, that’s how laws can work, and this is how immigration law works, in particular.



The law gives the federal government the discretion to allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the country.



We can literally do this. And you don’t want it done that’s fine, but it’s consistent with the law.

Nope, thats how Democrats have been executing the laws and a part of why they lost in '16 and '24.

The law does not do such. There are, however, laws on the books that allow increased immigration from certain countries. Note: executive orders are not Legislative Law.

You are confusing Democrat malfeasance of execution of the laws with actual execution of the laws. You are conflating the law with policy.

For further reference, the immigration court backlog was reduced for the first time in 20 years. It's amazing what happens when you don't have democrats deliberately ****ing things up.

 

[L88]

Pfft. Cool Story Bro

Definitely your most intellectual argument.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Nope, thats how Democrats have been executing the laws and a part of why they lost in '16 and '24.

I think this idea that Democrats have lost elections because they are not taking a hardline stance against immigration is true, and I don’t agree with Americans who express this sort of attitude. They’re wrong. They tend to be racists/bigots. I think it’s a backward way of looking at things. We are better off with more immigration not less.

The law does not do such. There are, however, laws on the books that allow increased immigration from certain countries. Note: executive orders are not Legislative Law.

Nope. Republican and Democratic administrations have been using their discretion to allow undocumented immigrants to stay in the U.S. for decades through various legal mechanisms. If you want to get into the details we can, but I can assure you that you are mistaken.

You are confusing Democrat malfeasance of execution of the laws with actual execution of the laws. You are conflating the law with policy

No. You don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m sorry for being blunt, but there’s no other way to put it. The federal government has enormous discretion over the issue of immigration. The Trump administration now using this discretion in the other direction.

For further reference, the immigration court backlog was reduced for the first time in 20 years.

Part of the reason for the backlog is that Republicans have been refusing to provide adequate funding for the immigration courts to be properly funded.

I also think this is happening for bad reasons. For example, instead of doing things the proper, legal way the Trump admin has been deporting people without due process to places like CECOT where they are being tortured and sexually abused. We are now seeing TB spreading in detention facilities. It’s inhumane. It’s wrong. And when I talk to Trump supporters about it they’re like, “LOL MAGA THEY DESERVE IT STUPID WET BACKS! THEY CAN EAT SHIT.” This sort of mean, belligerent, cruel attitude reflects very poorly on your side.

It's amazing what happens when you don't have democrats deliberately ****ing things up.

You just don’t like them because they have brown skin and speak Spanish. The undocumented immigrants have been enormously helpful. There has been no “****ing things up.” The vast majority of them don’t engage in crimes and work very hard. You believe in a bunch of bullshit propaganda about them that paints them in a negative light.

 

[OpportunityCost]

I think this idea that Democrats have lost elections because they are not taking a hardline stance against immigration is true, and I don’t agree with Americans who express this sort of attitude. They’re wrong. They tend to be racists/bigots. I think it’s a backward way of looking at things. We are better off with more immigration not less.




Nope. Republican and Democratic administrations have been using their discretion to allow undocumented immigrants to stay in the U.S. for decades through various legal mechanisms. If you want to get into the details we can, but I can assure you that you are mistaken.



No. You don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m sorry for being blunt, but there’s no other way to put it. The federal government has enormous discretion over the issue of immigration. The Trump administration now using this discretion in the other direction.



Part of the reason for the backlog is that Republicans have been refusing to provide adequate funding for the immigration courts to be properly funded.

I also think this is happening for bad reasons. For example, instead of doing things the proper, legal way the Trump admin has been deporting people without due process to places like CECOT where they are being tortured and sexually abused. We are now seeing TB spreading in detention facilities. It’s inhumane. It’s wrong. And when I talk to Trump supporters about it they’re like, “LOL MAGA THEY DESERVE IT STUPID WET BACKS! THEY CAN EAT SHIT.” This sort of mean, belligerent, cruel attitude reflects very poorly on your side.



You just don’t like them because they have brown skin and speak Spanish. The undocumented immigrants have been enormously helpful. There has been no “****ing things up.” The vast majority of them don’t engage in crimes and work very hard. You believe in a bunch of bullshit propaganda about them that paints them in a negative light.

More wrongheaded, stupid shit. Democrats refusing to enforce laws doesn't mean it was right, lawful, or constitutional.

Anecdotal race card! Soooo ****ing reliable and based. Then you accuse me of racism outright. Look, we deal in posts not name calling. You don't get to just call me a racist and then duck out. No, they haven't. Schools, hospitals, public services all overloaded and unbelievable amounts of downward wage pressure all show your "helpful" to be a lie.

Let's address something else as well. You are putting a racial slur in quotes and attributing it to Trump supporters when only you have been able to "hear" it. How is that anything but slandering Trump supporters with no way to corroborate or disprove what you "heard"? Either way, it's a dishonest, despicable way to post.

 

[uptower]

Definitely your most intellectual argument.

You've been fed garbage dude. Its easy to dehumanize people if you can lump them in with the enemy. If you xan make people believe absurdities you can make them commit atrocities.