Winston Parker
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- May 20, 2015
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“What apparently happened is the Iraqi forces just showed no will to fight,” he said. “They were not outnumbered. In fact, they vastly outnumbered the opposing force. That says to me, and I think to most of us, that we have an issue with the will of the Iraqis to fight ISIL and defend themselves."
Carter saying Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' sparks more criticism, concern about Obama plan | Fox News
Here we go again with our desperate attempts to train those who will shoot at our backs once they will be left alone.
They say you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink. Bush Jr. invaded the wrong country (as if he could invade the right one). Iraqis understand they will die from ISIS attacks, but many of them got addicted to ISIS propaganda. So both facts are against US there - the fact Iraqis are muslims makes them sympathize isis and they never stopped treating us as invaders so I'm not surprised they don't want to fight.
It seems Pentagon's idea was to create non-US troops to fight ISIS and to oppose terrorists without getting involved to a direct confrontation.
So, does it mean we spend money on training future terrorists?
Carter saying Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' sparks more criticism, concern about Obama plan | Fox News
Here we go again with our desperate attempts to train those who will shoot at our backs once they will be left alone.
They say you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink. Bush Jr. invaded the wrong country (as if he could invade the right one). Iraqis understand they will die from ISIS attacks, but many of them got addicted to ISIS propaganda. So both facts are against US there - the fact Iraqis are muslims makes them sympathize isis and they never stopped treating us as invaders so I'm not surprised they don't want to fight.
It seems Pentagon's idea was to create non-US troops to fight ISIS and to oppose terrorists without getting involved to a direct confrontation.
So, does it mean we spend money on training future terrorists?
Well, I learned from my year in Vietnam that it's really impossible to be an occupying army in any foreign culture. That is, countries don't like to be invaded by any other.
You can't blame the Iraqis--why in hell do they want to fight for the gang of thieves who invaded them? The "government" is just a puppet of the US.
Carter saying Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' sparks more criticism, concern about Obama plan | Fox News
Here we go again with our desperate attempts to train those who will shoot at our backs once they will be left alone.
They say you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink. Bush Jr. invaded the wrong country (as if he could invade the right one). Iraqis understand they will die from ISIS attacks, but many of them got addicted to ISIS propaganda. So both facts are against US there - the fact Iraqis are muslims makes them sympathize isis and they never stopped treating us as invaders so I'm not surprised they don't want to fight.
It seems Pentagon's idea was to create non-US troops to fight ISIS and to oppose terrorists without getting involved to a direct confrontation.
So, does it mean we spend money on training future terrorists?
Why wouldn't they want freedom and a better government? Would you have wanted to live under Saddam?
A secular leader that had zero tolerance for the religious fighting between Islamic extremists, As opposed to the Islamic State, HELL YES, not you?
So all of the other massive crimes against humanity don't bother you?
List of Saddam's Crimes Is Long - ABC News
Why wouldn't they want freedom and a better government? Would you have wanted to live under Saddam?
Sure they do. And all the crimes against humanity carried out by the United States government against the indigenous people's of America, the crimes against humanity with the US targeting of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the atrocities committed by our CIA against the Latin American community, bother me too, and?
It depends on what was more important to them. Having a horrible dictator and ok life or an elected government and a horrible life. To some of us ideology is worth dying for. To others what is most important is housing and feeding their family.
There was certainly a portion of the population who were terrorized by the regime. But that wasn't the case for most Iraqis.
Are Andrew Jackson or FDR still president?
Saddam was, and we took him out to your dismay.
You would've rather had a man who gassed tens of thousands of his own people than a democracy.
Which Democracy was that--the one were Bush/Cheney's stooge MALIKI massacred Sunnis and did not allow them a voice in the Iraqi government?
Think that the development of ISIL was an overnight thing?
Why did Maliki refuse a SOFA agreement with Bush/Cheney to protect our soldiers from Sharia law?
Few Americans would consider Sharia Law for our Soldiers a "Democracy" .
It seems odd to me, and it must be because I'm an American and used to freedom and justice, to see citizens contentedly living under a monster who's gassed his own people. It's like there's no sympathy or concern for anyone but oneself over there.
Are Andrew Jackson or FDR still president? Saddam was, and we took him out to your dismay. You would've rather had a man who gassed tens of thousands of his own people than a democracy.
Don't they get to vote?
Oh, were such an idea a real possibility for Iraq, I'd rather have it. But sense it's not, I'll take Saddam back. He may have killed tens of thousands, but the Iraq war claimed the lives of a couple hundred thousand.
Even women can vote in Iran, but not in Saudi Arabia. What's the point?.
By that logic, would you rather we didn't fight our Civil War?
Nothing, you're right, voting is meaningless.
Of course I wouldn't have preferred fighting a war that cost the lives of 600,000 Americans for the sake of preserving the union.
So bring back slavery and add to it a north and south U.S. that may not have been strong enough to exist today lol.
Goodnight.
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