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That would include Lincoln, ya know.
Cool ... so exactly how is Obama's Iraq policy working?True, I've known for decades CONservatives have NEVER been on the correct side of ANY US policy that worked!
I was in favor of a war tax after 9/11.eace
Okay then...PROGRESSIVE ABE? Stop conflating party with ideology, don't you know parties have switched several times the last 150 years?
Cool ... so exactly how is Obama's Iraq policy working?
Okay then...
Just let me know when you get the goalposts properly secured and maybe we can continue?
Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Are you saying that the 80% of Republicans that voted for it were wrong?
So in other words you want to take credit for all of the good stuff while simultaneously distancing yourself from all of the bad stuff by selectively assigning the definitions?Reading issues? Or comprehension? I said CONservative policy EVER working as promised or GOP the last 40 years. I realize how ideology flipped!
... so exactly how is Obama's Iraq policy working?His policy to invade a nation on false premises?
It's working out great if you're an insurgent.... so exactly how is Obama's Iraq policy working?
It's working out great if you're an insurgent.
P.S. Thanks for bringing this thread back on topic. Well done
Well... the title of the thread is: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance. Apparently, according to some, Obama's Iraq policy is somehow not relevant to the discussion? lol.Apparently earlier I was a bad boy in that regard but I thought it was relevant at the time ... tangentially, anyway.
In House and Senate, greater percentages of Repubs than Dems voted for the 1964 CRA.eace
So in other words you want to take credit for all of the good stuff while simultaneously distancing yourself from all of the bad stuff by selectively assigning the definitions?
Got it.
NOTHING to do with CONservatives EVER being on the correct side of history huh?
CONservatives (think Southerners, today's GOP base, were 98% against the CRA of 1964, like GOPers Goldwater and Reagan (Goldwater because he was a true libertarin, Reagan fighting hard for the Southern Staters, IMO)..
NORTHERN GOPers voted for that Democratic ting!
No, now it's a mess!
NOTHING to do with CONservatives EVER being on the correct side of history huh?
CONservatives (think Southerners, today's GOP base, were 98% against the CRA of 1964, like GOPers Goldwater and Reagan (Goldwater because he was a true libertarin, Reagan fighting hard for the Southern Staters, IMO)..
NORTHERN GOPers voted for that Democratic thing!
The most important man in the Senate to pass the CRA was Repub leader Everett Dirksen of Illinois, a man who always described himself as a conservative. There were many others like him in both House and Senate.eace
Well... the title of the thread is: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance. Apparently, according to some, Obama's Iraq policy is somehow not relevant to the discussion? lol.
Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance
Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
In fact it is a point that none of Barracks foreign policies are relevant, even if he has some. Whatever policies he might have are certainly not doing the United States any good.
You're calling Democrats Conservatives, are you?
This is how Democrats try to disassociate themselves from their past, but they continue the same policies toward minorities as they did prior to the CRA.
Illinois? Oh right NORTHERN, Reagan 'considered' himself CONservative too right?
Dirksen's penchant for changing his mind during his days as a congressman was noted by the Chicago Sun-Times, which once noted that he had changed his mind 62 times on foreign policy matters, 31 times on military affairs, and 70 times on agricultural policies.
Nation: The Leader: Everett Dirkson - TIME
He was a leading "hawk" on the issue of the Vietnam War — a position he held well before Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson decided to escalate the war.
As President Johnson followed Dirksen's recommendations and escalated the war, Dirksen gave him strong public support, as well as strong support inside the Republican caucus, even as some Republicans advised him that it would be to the party's advantage to oppose Johnson.
In 1964, as Southern Democratic Senators staged a filibuster that ran 54 days to block passage of the Civil Rights bill of 1964 (see Civil Rights Act of 1964), Senators Dirksen, Thomas Kuchel (R-CA), Hubert Humphrey (D-MN), and Mike Mansfield (D-MT) introduced a substitute bill and slightly weaker bill that they hoped would attract enough Republican swing votes to end the filibuster. The compromise bill was weaker than the House version regarding government power to regulate the conduct of private business, but it was not so weak as to cause the House to reconsider the legislation. After 57 days of filibuster, the substitute bill passed in the Senate, and then the House-Senate conference committee agreed to adopt the Senate version of the bill.
Everett Dirksen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BUT, I'M NOT TALKING INDIVIDUALS, I'M TALKING EITHER PARTY (GOP) OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS OR CONservatives as a whole, being on the correct side of history! DO YOU DENY CONservatives bloccked CRA in 1964? SOUTHERN CONservatives today's GOP base?
So then you blame Bush? This would be a first.
The most important man in the Senate to pass the CRA was Repub leader Everett Dirksen of Illinois, a man who always described himself as a conservative. There were many others like him in both House and Senate.eace
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