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As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.April 19, 2015
TEHRAN, Iran — International nuclear inspectors will be barred from all Iranian military sites under any deal with world powers, a senior commander in the Revolutionary Guard said Sunday, setting up a possible standoff as negotiators try to reach a final deal.
Gen. Hossein Salami, the Guard's deputy leader, told Iranian state television that allowing foreign inspection of military sites is tantamount to "selling out," raising the stakes as talks between Iran and the six-nation group are to resume April 22 in Vienna. "We will respond with hot lead (bullets) to those who speak of it," Salami said. "Iran will not become a paradise for spies. We will not roll out the red carpet for the enemy."
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.
Maybe they will, I dunno.
But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
Simpleχity;1064545890 said:Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites
As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.
Nuclear weapons are under the custody and supervision of the military in every nation that has declared itself to be a nuclear-weapon nation. Iran has long been suspected of running two parallel nuclear programs ... one program for the purpose of generating energy and another separate military program to fabricate nuclear warheads and ballistic delivery systems.
The P5+1 nations are negotiating with Iran for the express purpose of guaranteeing that an Iranian military program to acquire nuclear weapons is impossible under strict parameters and an intrusive inspections regimen for the duration of any mutually accepted deal. This lofty goal however, cannot be achieved without the capability of the IAEA to inspect military facilities suspected of nuclear weapons research or uranium enrichment.
Contrary to what is imagined or purported by some, such inspections are not requested on a whim. The IAEA has many highly sophisticated tools to detect possible activity without entering a facility. They would only request access to a military facility if unequivocal technical/documentary evidence exists which demands an in-depth examination to either verify or dismiss suspicions.
Without this critical capability, any P5+1 deal with Iran is illusion and a sham.
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.
Maybe they will, I dunno.
But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
You can't compare this to a General in the US military. The Iranian Republican Guard Corps (125,000) is an independent arm of the Iranian military. Somewhat reminiscent of how the Nazi SS was independent of the German military. It has its own land/air/sea forces and its main task is not to protect Iran, but to protect the Iranian revolutionary regime. It controls the special operations Quds Force and the civilian Basij militia (90,000). It also has extensive land holdings and owns roughly one-fifth of all Iranian corporate enterprises. The IRGC is *highly influential* at all levels of the Iranian regime.But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.
Maybe they will, I dunno.
But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
it's not like there are any highly placed iranian officials who so object to an agreement that they would say things hoping to undermine it
you know, like highly placed America officials who object to an agreement
Do you have proof that the American side is lying about this? or is it just what political opponents of yours predicted so you have to throw out the lie?...
lying about what, exactly?
You were implying that American's were lying about the Iranian generals refusing inspection of military sites....I'd like to see your proof of such.
My guess is you don't have any and are talking out of another orifice.
So can we just nuke the Iranians now? Oh wait dammit, there's still Russia and China to deal with and they probably won't let us.
Well, **** the Guard, they're stupid anyway and if Iran was able to acquire a nuke no one would be in trouble except for the Israelis (don't they have nukes themselves?).
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.
Maybe they will, I dunno.
But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
This "chest thumping for the locals" meme one sees among the left wingers attempting to breath life into Kerry's efforts is an astonishing exercise in wishful thinking. I seriously doubt that the generals would be saying this if the Sayyid Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader, didn't approve. Khamenei's own comments lend support to the idea that the "framework" is a zombie. Literally none of the important points in negotiations are agreed to at this point. I can't think of no reason for them to insist that there's any sort of agreement at all other than the American politics entailed.
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.
Maybe they will, I dunno.
But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.
Yeah, this one is a bit more concerning. Like Simpleχity said, the Republican Guard is its own influential player and power broker within Iran. Had one of the hardline, conservative Iranian politicians or religious leaders said this, it'd not be as concerning because they're generally on the outs right now. But that it's the Republican Guard saying this ... it's notable.it's not like there are any highly placed iranian officials who so object to an agreement that they would say things hoping to undermine it
you know, like highly placed America officials who object to an agreement
Oh?
You are there?
I love how the groveling Obama lovers always "explain" to us dolts what the Iranians are really saying...."death to america" means "hey, bro, 'sup"
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