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'Some undiplomatic language by the top U.S. diplomat for Europe has rattled relations with the European Union and added more tension to the East-West strains over Ukraine’s political crisis.
“F--k the EU,” Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said in a private phone call expressing frustration with European Union efforts to resolve Ukraine’s political turmoil.
On the eve of Russia’s showcase Olympics in Sochi, the U.S. suggested today that Moscow’s intelligence apparatus was responsible for the leaked tape of the intercepted phone call, apparently made last month, between Nuland and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt.
State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki blamed Russian “tradecraft” -- a word used to describe espionage activity -- after an unknown individual posted the audio recording on Google Inc.’s (GOOG) YouTube. The clip, subtitled in Russian rather than Ukrainian and accompanied by photographs and images of people mentioned in the call, was reported earlier today by the Kyiv Post.'
Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine - Bloomberg
'Some undiplomatic language by the top U.S. diplomat for Europe has rattled relations with the European Union and added more tension to the East-West strains over Ukraine’s political crisis.
“F--k the EU,” Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said in a private phone call expressing frustration with European Union efforts to resolve Ukraine’s political turmoil.
On the eve of Russia’s showcase Olympics in Sochi, the U.S. suggested today that Moscow’s intelligence apparatus was responsible for the leaked tape of the intercepted phone call, apparently made last month, between Nuland and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt.
State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki blamed Russian “tradecraft” -- a word used to describe espionage activity -- after an unknown individual posted the audio recording on Google Inc.’s (GOOG) YouTube. The clip, subtitled in Russian rather than Ukrainian and accompanied by photographs and images of people mentioned in the call, was reported earlier today by the Kyiv Post earlier today as Nuland arrived for talks in the Ukrainian capital.
While saying the U.S. doesn’t know who recorded the call or posted it, Psaki said an aide to Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin was the first to draw attention to it in a posting on Twitter Inc. (TWTR) The aide, Dmitry Loskutov, tweeted in English: “Sort of controversial judgment from Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland speaking about the EU.”
“We think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft, in terms of publicizing, posting,” Psaki told reporters today in Washington.
U.S. Apology
Psaki didn’t dispute the authenticity of the recording and said Nuland has called EU officials to apologize. Psaki joked that those who know her aren’t surprised by her language in private conversations..'
Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine - Bloomberg
False and dangerous nonsense.eace
And do you have a link to proof that it is 'false'?
The conversation itself cannot reasonably be interpreted to mean what is claimed.eace
Why not?
Because there is plainly no interference in Ukrainian affairs. Just normal discussion between a senior Washington official and the US Ambassador, whose job it is to be in touch with all sides in host country politics.
That conversation does not prove there is no interference.
If anything, it suggests that there is:
'The voice allegedly of Nuland adds that [Ukrainian opposition leader Vitali] Klitschko should not be given a role in government.
“I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea,” she says.
“Yeah… I guess… in terms of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff,” Pyatt says.
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Before the call ends, Nuland tells Pyatt she has “one more wrinkle” for him.
Commenting on European pressure put on Yanukovych – or lack thereof – she explains that she has spoken to the United Nations and has gotten an official there who said that Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, agreed to send someone to Ukraine to “help glue this thing and to have the UN glue it.”
She adds: “And you know, **** the EU.”
“Exactly,” Pyatt replies. “And I think we got to do something to make it stick together, because you can be sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes to torpedo it. Let me work on Klitschko, and I think we should get a Western personality to come out here (to Ukraine) and midwife this thing,’’ he adds.'
Those two highlighted parts denote direct/indirect influence/action...not non-interference.
So when someone says 'And I think we got to do something to make it stick together,'; that indicates to you that this person intends 'no interference'?
Yes or no, please?
No. It's just normal diplomatic maneuvering. Perfectly in bounds.
So, when someone says 'And I think we got to do something to make it stick together' - that indicates the person intends ZERO interference..in no way, shape or form?
Noted.
Good day.
that was a reference to diplomatic activity via the UN. It's what diplomats do.eace
No, that was after the reference to the U.N...you cannot be sure what they are speaking of.
Also this:
' Let me work on Klitschko, and I think we should get a Western personality to come out here (to Ukraine) and midwife this thing,’’ he adds.'
He did not say 'let me get the U.N. to work on...'' He said, 'let ME work on...'.
And you think someone saying 'let me work on Kitschko' is an example of 'no interference'?
I give up.
I am not saying to what level America is butting in.
But to say there is 'no interference' is ridiculously naive, imo.
But go ahead, ignorance is bliss.
Good day.
Because there is plainly no interference in Ukrainian affairs. Just normal discussion between a senior Washington official and the US Ambassador, whose job it is to be in touch with all sides in host country politics.
Horse puckey. CIA NGOs are behind the insurrection in the Ukraine. Trying to get the Ukraine under the Corporate umbrella. Put a few NATO bases next door to Russia. Business as usual.
It would be the Ambassador's job to "work on" Klitschko and anybody else who matters. That's why the US (and everybody else) has an Ambassador.eace
Whatever pal.
Eight tours of duty in US embassies abroad have given me a certain familiarity with the work.eace
Tin foil hat nonsense.eace
Wow - and I have 15...I guess that means I know better then you.
BTW - I am also the Postmaster General.
Even if what you said was true - all that would mean is a) you are clearly biased; and b) it explains your naivety on this.
Tin foil hat nonsense.eace
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