• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Intel chief releases Russian disinfo on Hillary Clinton that was rejected by bipartisan Senate panel

I haven't said a word about what Barr said about the report, though his summary was accurate.

"(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
 

True. What could he give them that he hasn't already???

Shit he gave them a US Air base, that they are happily occupying and using every day...
 
Well we know that was bullshit...

First example that comes to mind is turning over internal polling data to Russia...

What do you suppose they needed that for???

Bathroom reading???
 
"The Rat" is doing precisely what he pledged not to do: Use his position for political purposes. But he's a Dirtbag tool of long standing so it's no surprise whatsoever that he'd corrupt the office he holds and try to help Dirtbag win. Down the stretch we're going to see much more and much worse abuse by Dirtbag's entire corrupt criminal enterprise to try to save him. But it won't.
 
 
Except that it isn't baseless. It is factual and completely accurate. It was rejected by the Intelligence Committee because if they had accepted it then Hillary would be facing criminal charges today.

Yes, because we know the senate just loves Hillary Clinton.
 
Except that it isn't baseless. It is factual and completely accurate. It was rejected by the Intelligence Committee because if they had accepted it then Hillary would be facing criminal charges today.
You don't even know that this Senate investigation concluded this year not in 2016 not to mention that the Senate committee is controlled by Republicans so WTF are you even here for if you're that ignorant of this issue? Just to embarrass yourself?
 
Nobody tied Russia to Dirtbag's campaign better than your dear Dearbag himself:
Russia was listening and Russia responded by doing just what he asked them to do a few hours later that night.
 
So. Liars bother you? Lock her up you say. Yes?

Yet, you support Trump. Arguably the greatest liar to ever occupy the oval office and perhaps any other public office in American history. What does that make you?

Should we be bothered?
What makes you think I support Trump? I didn't vote for him in 2016, and I have no intention of voting for him in 2020. I don't vote for leftist freaks, regardless which political party they have to be registered with at the time.

All politicians are habitual liars. There are no exceptions, and political party makes no difference. Hillary's criminal acts goes all the way back to the 1970s when she committed fraud and was fired while working on Nixon's impeachment. Her criminal career stretches back at least 46 years, and probably further.
 
They knew before Labor Day 2016 the Trump campaign was not involved. No evidence. Nothing. No reason to continue.
Ha ha. You're funny.

Donnie Jr. didn't meet with Russian-government representatives to "get dirt" on Clinton. Right.
Paul Manafort didn't give polling data to the Russians. Right.
Trump didn't publicly ask Russia to get the Clinton emails. Right.
Roger Stone didn't coordinate with Wikileaks on when to release the Russia-obtained emails. Right.
Flynn wasn't illegally negotiating with the Russian ambassador to undermine Obama's sanctions. Right. I guess that's why he didn't lie about it to the FBI. Oh wait...

Ever wonder why all the Trumpers lie their asses off about this? Over and over and over? Why didn't Barr's own hand-picked hatchet man find any significant wrongdoing by the FBI in Crossfire Hurricane? Why?
Why didn't Trump criticize Russia even for putting bounties on our troops' heads? Why?
 

Yes, Wray is keeping his soul, unlike Barr and company. I want to see Sally Yates as Attorney General. Make Lt. Col. Vindman her top aid.
 
I don't believe making up BS to try and win a campaign violates any law. Now using the BS to secure FISA warrants IS against the law. But they expect us to believe the FBI is incompetent, not corrupt.
Making up BS to try to win a campaign does not violate the law. In fact, it is expected. Like when Hillary started the birther movement against Obama in 2008. Many people want to blame Trump for that, but in 2008 Trump was a huge Hillary supporter and literally hung on every word she said. While Trump did indeed continue to spread the lie, it was Hillary who started it. Just like it was Hillary who started the lie about Russia collusion. She was the one actually colluding with Russia and other foreign countries. Saudi Arabia alone paid Hillary's foundation more than $900 million.

The FBI has been "incompetent" for a very long time. Since at least the 1940s. That level of incompetence can only be corruption. Replacing one corrupt Director with another one from within the FBI will not solve the problem either. It only compounds the problem until you have a rogue agency that takes it upon itself to replace the President of the United States.
 
Oh, jeebus. Based on what you claim above and your earlier comment about Ratcliffe's bullshit being "true" and then the bizarro-world notion that Hillary started the birther bullshit we can only imagine what hare-brained, whacked out political sect you belong to.
 
Reactions: jpn

Somebody needs to tell Trump that she isn't running against him. Because it seems like he hasn't realized that yet.
 
Somebody needs to tell Trump that she isn't running against him. Because it seems like he hasn't realized that yet.
The only recycling that Dirtbag practices is that of his psychotic rantings.
 
Conspired, perhaps not. Coordinated and cooperated, oh yeah and in spades:
Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
Of course, no amount of fact will ever stop Dirtbag and his cult from lying their collective asses off about it.
 
Reactions: jpn
Well we know that was bullshit...

First example that comes to mind is turning over internal polling data to Russia...

What do you suppose they needed that for???

Bathroom reading???

To be convinced Trump was going to win. Of course.
 
I haven't said a word about what Barr said about the report, though his summary was accurate.

Barr's summary of the Mueller Report was a brazen lie. Barr claimed the Mueller team "did not find that the Trump Campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election." In fact, it found a lot of evidence of the campaign coordinating with Russians. What the report said that this evidence was not sufficient to charge Trump et. al. with a criminal conspiracy--two very different things. Yet Barr chose to say Mueller did not "find" a conspiracy or coordination--which slyly presented the report in laymen's terms as a complete exoneration.

Barr completely omitted any discussion on the facts documented by Mueller of Trump's obstruction of justice, including Trump's many egregious acts. Barr did not mention Trump's maneuvering to fire the special counsel and rid himself of the investigation, and then covering up his attempts to fire the team, even going so far as instructing his White House counsel to concoct a bogus memo for the White House files.
Instead, Barr merely explained that Mueller's team looked at "a number of actions by the President"; it then minimized their findings by noting that most of the evidence was already public--which was literally true but hid the damning nonpublic facts that were documented in the report for the first time. The only reason to write that was to purposely distort the report's actual findings.

Mueller withheld his judgement as to whether Trump broke the law because of Mueller's principled position that he felt he couldn't charge someone who wouldn't be able to legally challenge the charge due to the DOJ's position that a sitting president could not be charged with a crime. Barr omitted all that, and just claimed that Mueller ultimately "did not draw a conclusion." So Barr jumped in to find that Trump hadn't broken any law, when obviously he had.
 
Mueller got in his weasel words, but what matters is this: "(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
 
Mueller got in his weasel words, but what matters is this: "(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
Yes, to that extent the obstruction of justice worked. Also, the Mueller team established that Trump obstructed justice, but Mueller felt it would be improper to come out and state that in the report.
 
Yes, to that extent the obstruction of justice worked. Also, the Mueller team established that Trump obstructed justice, but Mueller felt it would be improper to come out and state that in the report.
yawn...

Deflecting to obstruction now, are you?

That obstruction stuff in the Mueller report was nonsense. Nobody will EVER file any charges related to that stuff. It just won't stick in a court of law. (And Mueller's pukes knew that.)
 
Nobody tied Russia to Dirtbag's campaign better than your dear Dearbag himself:
Russia was listening and Russia responded by doing just what he asked them to do a few hours later that night.

Actually, if Russia ever had access to Hillary's emails they never released a single one at any time and the word used was "find", not hack.
 
That obstruction stuff in the Mueller report was nonsense.

Yeah. Even if there had been obstruction, it would be an obstruction of an illegitimate witch hunt that had nothing to do with justice
 
Actually, if Russia ever had access to Hillary's emails they never released a single one at any time and the word used was "find", not hack.
They gave them to Wikileaks. Roger Stone coordinated their release. And lied about it.
 
They gave them to Wikileaks. Roger Stone coordinated their release. And lied about it.

See-- here is the problem-- sorry to say it this way, but you don't understand.
The Clinton emails were not released by Wikileaks.
The hacked DNC emails were released, which were not the same as the missing Clinton emails, emails that had nothing to do with Clinton directly.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…