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Yes, there if affirmative action and many educational institutions that give priority/positively factor in minority races in regards to accepting applicants. It's not everywhere, but it does exist.
Doesn't matter in terms of what we were talking about. You said commercial rap was anti-intellectual.
I said most genres of commercial music are anti-intellectual.
You're original point about commercial rap being anti-intellectual is still meaningless since the label can be applied to every commercial genre of music.
Nah, I'm going to have to agree with Dr. King on this one: "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro."Close. But I don't think we should just turn a blind eye to race, I think we need to actively stop treating people as if they are different based on where they are from or how much melatonin is in their skin. Its completely double speak to cry about racism and then turn around and advocate for things such as affirmative action. If we believe in equality, then people should be judged as equal and race shouldn't play a factor into getting a job or into a school. Saying one thing and doing another isn't helping anything as far as racism goes.
It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.No, I wrote " While I agree with this, and the point about it being a symptom and not a cause, I would say commercial rap is pretty comfortable in the anti-intellectual bandwagon, and usually is just mired in various forms of ignorance."
Which isn't claiming something as exclusive to commercial rap, but that commercial rap is a particularly bad example of it
Commercial anything is meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Hardly any of it - whether pop, country, alternative, et al. - is intellectual. Thus, singling commercial rap out as an anti-intellectual doesn't make any sense.
It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.
It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.
Those schools are failing because the people who go there don't care about getting an education. It's not the school that's at fault, it's the students and their parents.
dont only doesnt it make sense its broken logic. Music/movies etc are meaningless to this topic, their impact secondary
If you go back and read my original post, I make clear that I agree that it's a symptom and not a cause.
I read that it doesnt have an impact to what i said
Neither jazz nor classical music has a "commercial" sub-genre.So do you find jazz and classical music "anti-intellectual"?
Yes it does, you apparently claimed it was "broken logic", because their impact is secondary. I'm pointing out I never wrote anything to the contrary, so your point of contention was about something that wasn't even claimed
I agree for the most part. I do think, however, that schools are way too concerned about pupil census. After a child hits 16? If they're complete disruptions to students and classrooms? Throw their asses out into the street. But, of course, schools don't do that because it costs them money. So every student suffers because of what amounts to a relative few -- setting poor examples, making fun of "nerds," making school hallways unsafe, the walk to-and-from a challenge.
In that way, I blame school administration. The teachers? They're probably sick of their jobs. I would be if I was trying to teach, entered the profession with ideals, and found I was babysitting majority fails.
Nope. Lil B rapping, "Bitches suck my dick because I look like J.K. Rowling," is just as stupid as Katy Perry singing, "I kissed a girl and I liked it." They both are not only just dumb lyrics, but they both perpetuate ignorance surrounding women and sexuality. The only difference is that Lil B uses more explicit language which is only means that it offends some people's sensibilities.Yes, as you can see, the degree of ignorance and stupidity expressed in it far surpasses anything you will find in commercial pop music or country
Nope. Lil B rapping, "Bitches suck my dick because I look like J.K. Rowling," is just as stupid as Katy Perry singing, "I kissed a girl and I liked it." They both are not only just dumb lyrics, but they both perpetuate ignorance surrounding women and sexuality. The only difference is that Lil B uses more explicit language which is only means that it offends some people's sensibilities.
Anti-intellectual: that which is opposed to or antithetical to the use of one's intellectI don't see how. Could you define "anti-intellectual" please?
What's your point? Are you arguing that violence is the most anti-intellectual form of anti-intellectualism? Why are violent lyrics more anti-intellectual than lyrics trivializing sexuality?The video I posted didn't deal with sexual acts, it dealt with gang culture, and the person who produced it is facing a list of murder charges. And Katy Perry isn't offering rewards to people to rob lady gaga
Yeah, if art plays a role in institutional racism, it perpetuates it. It does not cause it.not only doesnt it make sense its broken logic. Music/movies etc are meaningless to this topic, their impact secondary
As long as the criminal organization known colloquially as the "Democratic" party holds a significant amount of political power there will continually be institutionalized racism in America.
In the inner cities, you have more than 50% of students dropping out anyhow, mostly because they know that they don't need an education, they're going to spend their lives dealing drugs, having illegitimate children and in prison or on welfare. That's what their parent(s) and their sub-culture teaches them they should do, but it remains their choice and their fault, you can't blame any of it on institutional racism. Nobody forces them to be idiots. They choose that for themselves.
All of the things you list are not causes of that kind of behavior, but consequences of it. Teachers get burned out having to deal with a culture that teaches their children to be disrespectful, that doesn't place a priority on education, etc. You have to place the blame on the people who are actually causing the problem and that's not the schools, it's the students.
What's your point? Are you arguing that violence is the most anti-intellectual form of anti-intellectualism?
Why are violent lyrics more anti-intellectual than lyrics trivializing sexuality?
A form of racial inequality resulting not from conscious discrimination, but from the cumulative effect of subconscious racism and/or from the aggregate inertial discriminatory effect of individuals within a non-diverse group favoring like-minded individuals.
Anti-intellectual: that which is opposed to or antithetical to the use of one's intellect
*rough definition, but it should get the point across
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