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Kandahar said:Have you people taken leave of your senses? Of course this is baloney.
Kandahar said:Have you people taken leave of your senses? Of course this is baloney.
aps said:I agree. It looks like there is a very good chance that Libby is going to be indicted. I think there is going to be a serious shake-up in the White House after this week. I just finished reading "All the President's Men." It's amazing the way history repeats itself......
Stu Ghatze said:Yea, ..& for THOSE that WANT to see the same things that do not exist either!:smile:
You can keep hoping though, ..maybe it can give you strength!:2razz:
aps said:Ha ha ha, Stu. It's cute to see you defending your own party.
I thought Bush was going to restore integrity to the White House? Yeah, right! :lol:
Stu Ghatze said:The prosecuror is reaching further than he actually should be here. If he has proof that Rove, or Cheney outed Valeri Plame first...he should give it!
Stu Ghatze said:If he cannot prove it, he should walk away rather than try to indict on some OTHER phoney vague charge in a lame as.s attempt to just "get" something on somebody, for it will be seen for what it is in the long run, especially when partisan democrats are involved.
Kandahar said:That's the whole purpose of a trial. Why does he owe you proof now, when he hasn't even handed out any indictments yet?
This is the height of irony coming from someone who supported the impeachment of Bill Clinton on perjury charges, and continues to call him a rapist and a pervert.
Hoot said:I agree...the thing is, Fitzgerald hasn't leaked anything like this White House has..so we don't know yet.
As Bill Mahrer said...it's ok for republicans to impeach a president for leaking on a dress, but when republicans leak a CIA operative, they want it ignored and not prosecuted. ( It's a Dem conspiracy)
Based on what I've read, Libby and Rove both committed perjury, and in todays news, we know that Cheney told Libby about Wilson's wife a full month before the Novak article...bye bye Cheney, too?
The White House is sweating buckets this week.
TurtleDude said:You would be hard pressed to find a more partisan hack than the smarmy Bill Maher. His attempt to blame the Katrina hurricane mess on Bush was as pathetic as it was stupid-several guests were bullied by Maher when they said it was mostly a state and local F Up that caused the problems.
The clinton "witch hunt" was much like Ness getting Capone on what was then a minor league violation-tax evasion. Capone, like clinton-did far worse stuff but both were masters in keeping witnesses quiet and covering their tracks. In the Plame bs its the other way around-rather than taking a small victory because you can't prove major crimes here you don't even have a crime to start with but you try to get some indictment to look like you have done something Plame doesn't fit the definition of covert operative so the entire investigation was flawed to start with
Joe Scarborough (sp) was reporting from NO and Maher continually whined it was all Bush's fault and JS said no and Maher kept on and on. I saw the episode you reference though. Plame was not a covert operative-end of storyTrajan Octavian Titus said:Ya Maher is a jack ass but I actually saw the episode on Katrina and I believe to the best of my recollection that he agreed it was a state and local matter it was two of his nut case guests that were implying it was a race issue. And don't forget that it was Bush himself who wanted to investigate this situation further that's why he got independent investigator Fitzgerald to investigate it. If it comes down to the perjury issue I doubt anything will come of it, however, if it is found that Rove knowingly outted a covert CIA agent then he needs to be held accountable. I'm still on the fence on this one and I'll wait to see how it all plays out before I make any final judgements.
TurtleDude said:Joe Scarborough (sp) was reporting from NO and Maher continually whined it was all Bush's fault and JS said no and Maher kept on and on. I saw the episode you reference though. Plame was not a covert operative-end of story
danarhea said:Breaking news on this.
According to the same site, a Washington DC appellate court has just this morning thrown out of court the Bush's administration's attempt to quash the indictments and fire Fitzgerald. Also, again according to the same site, the number of indictments now stands at 28, which include Cheney and Bush himself.
Article is here.
aps said:danarrhea, is this a reputable site? I have gone onto MSNBC, CNN, and NYT and none of them are reporting this.
danarhea said:Of course, this is not a reputable website, which is why I have been putting disclaimers on just about everything that has to do with what this author writes (read my first post in this thread). However, he has hit a couple of home runs in the past, and scooped the mediawhores in the process. Chances are that this story is pure baloney, but am following it for grins, because he has been right a couple of times in the past. Either he is right this time, or he has permanently discredited himself, and will never be heard from again. LOL.
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