disneydude
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Why would changes be necessary if they were lies? The changes wouldn't change anything.
Yes, lies pushed by your side made changes necessary.
Greetings, Disneydude. :2wave:
The Governor did not pass the law. The legislature did. All he did was sign it. Pence is taking the heat, because that's what a true leader does, and what Truman meant when he said "the buck stops here." Clinton signed the original years ago, and took credit for it, and other States have also adopted the original. Why the ruckus in Indiana at this time? It does look like a deliberate diversion from other problems to many people, since this law was meant to include everyone, and not to exclude anyone, as it was portrayed to be in Indiana by a group with an agenda. Will adding a line specifically mentioning certain groups make everyone happy now? Sheesh!
Why would changes be necessary if they were lies? The changes wouldn't change anything.
There's a whole bunch of non-collegiate grads who will get to heaven when the pro-gay intellectuals wind up elsewhere. Revelation 21:8
How do you propose that a merchant could affect segregation?So segregation by color/race is fine with you?
Can you point out the significant differences?The Indiana law is not the same as the federal one. Take a look. That is exactly what the outrage is about.
That's good. Did you spend a lot of time coming up with that question? Obama voted for nearly identical legislation while a state senator in Illinois. What, exactly, is the difference? Go look at the legislation before you answer.
Dude....why don't you stop. Take a second...and stand back and look at what you are saying. Let's assume for a second that you are correct...that the "liars have won". What have they won? If the law didn't do what they claimed it did (their lies)...then a change in the law gets them nothing. They have won nothing. Right?
On the otherhand...if you are wrong about their lies.....then your statement "They have won" would have more meaning. Because they will have won something. If their attacks were truthful....then what they have won is a change in the law changing the law from being discriminatory.
So what is it? Why are you concerned about them "winning" if you really believe that what they have won is nothing? Its all about logic.
Clarification.
Their objectives had little to do with LGBT rights. Objectives were to damage Pence and to delegitimize the religious objection to SSM. It's just political warfare.
Their objectives had little to do with LGBT rights. Objectives were to damage Pence and to delegitimize the religious objection to SSM. It's just political warfare.
Why is being pro-homosexual a valid excuse for discrimination?Religious belief has never been a valid excuse for discrimination. There was nothing to "delegitimize".
Religious belief has never been a valid excuse for discrimination. There was nothing to "delegitimize".
I'm sure. Keep going logicman, your posts promote "pro-gay intellectuals" better than I ever could.
Major exceptions.yes, but 19 other states besides Indiana have the same law(with a few MINOR exceptions). so are you going to wet your drawers over those states and boycott them as well? you would have to for your opinion to make any sense, right?
Religious belief has never been a valid excuse for discrimination. There was nothing to "delegitimize".
Major exceptions.
This has been repeated about 100 times now. No, they are not the same.
And if you don't believe me, have a Foxer Foxsplain it to you:
Protected class? I wanna be a protected class.
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why don't you just explain to me the BIG difference. I'm to dumb to click the link. plus, we debate here; we don't post video links to debate for us
why don't you just explain to me the BIG difference. I'm to dumb to click the link. plus, we debate here; we don't post video links to debate for us
Discrimination was never a possibility.
No, Pence is discriminating because it was his intent to allow discrimination and also the intent of the Indiana legislature. Obama's intent wasn't. Illinois already had laws that make LGBT a protected class. Indiana doesn't. When this was discussed as part of the legislative process, it was pointed out that the legislation in Indiana would allow discrimination against LGBTs unless the law was changed to prevent it. The legislature chose not to change it. So, yes, huge difference.
And that's why Pence is doing a 180 and going to work to change the law to make sure it does not allow discrimination of gays and lesbians.
:lol:
Actually it is not nearly identical. Once Pence and the legislature make the changes it will be similar to the federal. This is what the outrage was about and why Pence couldn't answer the questions posed to him or refused to answer them. The fact is. Pence is the liar. He was caught in his lies and now is trying to do damage control
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