In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
Right. Let me know more of this fairy tale land where racism no longer exists. LOL

You do realize that many of the people from the Jim Crow era are still alive, right?

Interesting. Projecting I implied racism no longer existed, and that "many of the people" from the Jim Crow era are still alive.

Considering I've been factually pointing out racism most certainly exists, as displayed by those racist bigots who see legitimate disagreement of the Presidents policies as being racist itself, I'm curious how you could make such a claim?

And then there is the "many of the people" comment, which implies the majority of people who supported Jim Crow laws up until 1964 are still alive, and still hold those racial segregationist beliefs. That would be some remarkably powerful and healthy 70-100 year old people

On the other hand, I have been commenting about the uninformed, so there may be an explanation for all that, that I should consider.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
Interesting. Projecting I implied racism no longer existed, and that "many of the people" from the Jim Crow era are still alive.

Considering I've been factually pointing out racism most certainly exists, as displayed by those racist bigots who see legitimate disagreement of the Presidents policies as being racist itself, I'm curious how you could make such a claim?

And then there is the "many of the people" comment, which implies the majority of people who supported Jim Crow laws up until 1964 are still alive, and still hold those racial segregationist beliefs. That would be some remarkably powerful and healthy 70-100 year old people

On the other hand, I have been commenting about the uninformed, so there may be an explanation for all that, that I should consider.

I was using "many" in its most used form - to mean a large number of. And there are. If you consider someone born in 1950 - that would only make them 64 (ie. a young politician).

And the only racism I've seen you acknowledge is racism against whites.

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
I was using "many" in its most used form - to mean a large number of. And there are. If you consider someone born in 1950 - that would only make them 64 (ie. a young politician).

And the only racism I've seen you acknowledge is racism against whites.

No, "many people" would imply there are more than a few number of people. "Many of the people" implies most are still living and still harbor the same beliefs they held 1/2 century ago. That's laughable.

The only racism I've seen is yours against whites, so why wouldn't I comment on those racist views? However, didn't you suggest I claimed no racism exists? Now you're writing I am admitting racism exists but just not including enough races?

You're illustrating quite handily the level of information present among those I referred to in previous posts.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
No, "many people" would imply there are more than a few number of people. "Many of the people" implies most are still living and still harbor the same beliefs they held 1/2 century ago. That's laughable.

The only racism I've seen is yours against whites, so why wouldn't I comment on those racist views? However, didn't you suggest I claimed no racism exists? Now you're writing I am admitting racism exists but just not including enough races?

You're illustrating quite handily the level of information present among those I referred to in previous posts.

What point are you trying to make? Just come out and say it instead of dancing around it.

That racism exists, and it's mostly against white people?

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
What point are you trying to make? Just come out and say it instead of dancing around it.

That racism exists, and it's mostly against white people?

LOL

I'm guessing for some, it must be hard to let go of racial bias and actually comprehend what has been written.

If you think I'm dancing around something, I'm not sure further explanation will be any better at getting around the projection that is clouding your mind.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
LOL

I'm guessing for some, it must be hard to let go of racial bias and actually comprehend what has been written.

If you think I'm dancing around something, I'm not sure further explanation will be any better at getting around the projection that is clouding your mind.

I'm asking you to just say it. Ready, set, go:

"Argument goes here".

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
I'm asking you to just say it. Ready, set, go:

"Argument goes here".

:funny

Bet you're itching to see if I'll meet your bigoted stereotype.

Sorry Mr. Quixote, you're going to have to invent some other evil doers to exercise the racial prejudice you believe in. I'm not your guy.

Personally, I think racism exposes the simple minds of terribly disturbed simple minded people. It doesn't matter what race they are, or from what side of the ideological spectrum.

I also believe some of the greatest racists in the United States pray on those simple minds. That is evil in my book.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
Bet you're itching to see if I'll meet your bigoted stereotype.

I just want to know what you are talking about.

ocean515 said:
Personally, I think racism exposes the simple minds of terribly disturbed simple minded people. It doesn't matter what race they are, or from what side of the ideological spectrum.

I also believe some of the greatest racists in the United States pray on those simple minds. That is evil in my book.

I guess we agree on something.

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
I just want to know what you are talking about.

I guess we agree on something.

We may agree, but it's quite clear only one of us actually lives and believes in it.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
We may agree, but it's quite clear only one of us actually lives and believes in it.

Lives and believes in what?

shrubnose · Dec 5, 2014

MMC said:
Mornin' CPW. :2wave:

Good thing Republicans aren't classified as a race......huh?

Click to expand...

The GOP's base is old White males.

That's a shrinking demographic.

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
Lives and believes in what?

:doh

Santa Claus

Have a good day.

TheDemSocialist · Dec 5, 2014

Neither. Our race relations have always been pretty ****ty in this country.

whysoserious · Dec 5, 2014

ocean515 said:
:doh

Santa Claus

Have a good day.

See ya. Maybe next time we meet you'll have an actual stance and argument to make.

Ryan5 · Dec 5, 2014

shrubnose said:
The GOP's base is old White males.

That's a shrinking demographic.

Not just old white males. Also old white females.

Mason66 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
I promise that almost all of the problems have absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. But has a president ever been so disrespected since day 1 (since before day one actually)? It also doesn't remove me from society and from where I work, where I have personally heard people call him the n-word and personally heard them say they'd hang him, etc.

Can you not admit that there is a decent portion of the population that is still harboring racism - and that includes people in Congress?

Yes, every President by the opposing party. The only difference is everybody in the country can see it with social media and the 24/7 news cycle.

americanwoman · Dec 5, 2014

Ontologuy said:
President Obama's blatant race-baiting pander to Hispanics has come at the expense of Black African Americans.

It was his choice to do so, which he did, more recently in his Obamnesty EO, for the sole sake of pandering to Hispanics in Florida in the hope of capturing Florida for the Democrat candidate for President in 2016 especially if Jeb Bush is the Republican candidate.

When more than 25% of all illegal aliens are NOT Hispanic, yet Obama only presents his Obamnesty details in a White House web page titled "President Obama and The Hispanic Community", he is clearly, blatantly, and egregiously race-baiting.

He knows that the jobs millions of illegal aliens take should they get Obamnesty will be significantly those jobs that Black African Americans have, undercutting them with plummeting wage scales.

But he does so anyway, pitting this race against that race, all for his political agenda.

This is simply the most recent example where Obama has pitted one race against another.

Obama singles out people by race and then gives them special treatment over other races.

That is simply wrong, and it has contributed to racial violence where poverty enclaves of Hispanics and Blacks overlap.

How is that even possible when "Hispanic" is not a race?

ocean515 · Dec 5, 2014

whysoserious said:
See ya. Maybe next time we meet you'll have an actual stance and argument to make.

Ok. Maybe then you'll be able to actually recognize one when it's provided. eace

WillyPete · Dec 5, 2014

I believe he's helped.

When he was first elected, I know some folks (black and white) that speculated he would be assassinated before his inauguration.

As his term expires, they will have the shared experience of having a President of "their own" that had his ups and downs like any other.

Manc Skipper · Dec 5, 2014

He's been Presiding while black, is that help or hindrance? It certainly seems to have offended the more rancid right.

Perotista · Dec 5, 2014

Navy Pride said:
Your thoughts please.

Personally I don't think he has helped or hurt it much. It remains much the same as when he first took office. But here is how the nation thinks:

Blacks, Whites Agree Obama Hasn

Perotista · Dec 5, 2014

shrubnose said:
The GOP's base is old White males.

That's a shrinking demographic.

Shrinking demographics and shrinking numbers that affiliate with both parties.

Year…Dem…Rep…Ind
1936…51……30……19
1940…50……32……18
1944…47……35…..18
1948…48……32…..20
1952…40……35…...25
1956…45……30…..25

1960…51……25…..24
1964…52……24…..24
1968…44……28…..28
1972…45……26…..29
1976…51……21…..28
1980…48……24…..28
1984…40……30…..30
1988…34……26…..40
1992…33……27…..40
1996…33……28…..39
2000…33……28…..39
2002…32……31…..37
2004…35……33…..30
2006…34……29……36
2008….37…..26…..35
2010…32……33…..34
2011…30……27…..42
2012…35……30…..33
2013…30……24….44
2014…28……28….41 As of November 9, 2014

MMC · Dec 5, 2014

shrubnose said:
The GOP's base is old White males.

That's a shrinking demographic.

Heya SN. :2wave: Winning 33 States and 66 out of 99 State Legislatures says otherwise.

Ryan5 · Dec 5, 2014

Obama is a mixed race guy educated in Hawaii in a middle class setting. How could he have ever related to "Jamal in da hood"? Joe Biden said it best. "He's a clean cut guy".:lamo

Threegoofs · Dec 5, 2014

Yes. He's clearly inflamed race relations. It's because he is so uppity....errrr.... 'arrogant'!

He's about as bad as Medgar Evers. That guy really hurt race relations in the South. It was all going so well before that.

In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.