Pugery; lying same thing. It was a bj pure and simple. A most silly and stupid aste of everybody's time and money.
And uh, I don't live in Europe: we've been here (US) since 1765.
Please, Woodward? He made the mint out of dramatizing Nixon. Could you have chosen more of a drama queen.
Really anyone who was an adult and politically aware at the time knew Ford would pardon Nixon.
Kenneth Star stuck a sitting president for a bj. Just an asinine waste. The republicans still look stupid over that.
Yeah right. Besides, Congress went after him for abusing his office (the various gates), crooked sweetheart deals (Hillary's deals with Rose Law Firm) AND later perjury.
You do realize Clinton was acquitted, right? And the only reason Nixon stepped down was he had no chance of acquittal?
They impeached a sitting president over a bj and made this country the laughing stock of the western world.
Gee, high standards and how they hold us back. :roll:They impeached a sitting president over a bj and made this country the laughing stock of the western world.
They got Al Capone for tax evasion. And no, the people who repeat the lame reframe still look stupid every time they repeat it.
See post #53. The idiot reframe of what happened is what made the rest of the world laugh.
not to mention there's a difference between what nixon did and what clinton did.
I guess if a president gets a blowjob he should be impeached? stupid. stupid as hell.
Gee, high standards and how they hold us back. :roll:
*IF* we were a "laughing stock... which I dispute, but we'll run with it for conversation sake... then it was Clinton's fault for being dumb enough to get caught and dumb enough to lie about it. If something is clearly against the law, which perjury is, and Clinton knew the law, you can't reasonably fault others for wanting to enforce said law. If you do, your thinking is misplaced.
Does this mean you approve of lying under oath?whats stupid is that you think a president should be impeached just because he gets more head than you...
whats stupid is that you think a president should be impeached just because he gets more head than you...
Does this mean you approve of lying under oath?
not to mention there's a difference between what nixon did and what clinton did.
I guess if a president gets a blowjob he should be impeached? stupid. stupid as hell.
That's rather obvious and has been the entire thread. :lamo
This is a classic case of overstating an argument. He was not impeached for getting a blowjob, he was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. By overstating the argument, you make it easy to counter. Sticking with the facts works best. He was impeached on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice and was not even close to convicted of either. That is more than enough argument, and has the benefit of being accurate.
I'll grant that the Rep's pursuing the whole sex-oriented thing was indeed petty, I don't have an issue with that in and of itself, but once Clinton lied he opened up a bunch of other doors that would have remained shut otherwise. It really is his own fault.Of course it was Clinton's fault! I've always thought he acted like a blitheiring idiot over that, however it is even more stupid and idiotic to impeach a sitting president for a domestic issue. The silly republicans put their foot in thier mouth all the way up to their knee over that one.
I'll take your juvenile avoidance of the question, combined with the juvenile nature of the question itself, as 'yes' you do approve of lying under oath. Duly noted.Does that mean you approve impeaching president's because of their ability to get more women than you?
No, it's not accurate. He was indeed subsequently convicted of perjury and stripped of his law license.
But see, some republicans are hypocrites, in other words, do as we say, not as we do. Gingrich carried on an extramarital affair while he led the charge to toast Clinton.Talk about revisionist history. What do you think he was being asked about when he lied under oath? They were already going after him for something completely unrelated to his duties in office, and something that happens all across the United States all the time. He lied during that investigation while under oath, and they impeached him.
Obviously he shouldn't have lied under oath, but that was your classical Republican witch hunt. Throw the crap against the wall and see what sticks. It just so happens it worked.
But see, some republicans are hypocrites, in other words, do as we say, not as we do. Gingrich carried on an extramarital affair while he led the charge to toast Clinton.
Gingrich Admits to Affair During Clinton Impeachment - ABC News
Wrong. A deal was reached the day before Clinton left office in which he admitted to being "misleading and evasive" and gave up his license for 5 years. He is now eligible to get it back, though I do not know if he has. Clinton Eligible, Once Again, To Practice Law - The New York Sun
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