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In God We Trust

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In God We Trust
But, which God ?
 
Fledermaus said:
Gryax... The Norse God of senseless violence.
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........and abortions,........... greed for money ............a sense of belonging here on earth forever
 
Fledermaus said:
Gryax... The Norse God of senseless violence.
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........and abortions,........... greed for money ............a sense of belonging here on earth forever ..........
 
Everybody has his own God! Even, non believers!
And, before I say that something does not exist, it must exist. I cannot say a non existent thing , first, that thing must exist, or has existed





Fledermaus said:
Which has what to do with what God I choose?
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Observer said:
Everybody has his own God! Even, non believers!
And, before I say that something does not exist, it must exist. I cannot say a non existent thing , first, that thing must exist, or has existed
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You do not appear to understand the meaning of the word atheist.
 
The God of Hollywood celebrity. Go on sheep, worship!
 
Rich2018 said:
Explain, how can an Atheist have a god ?
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Very simple!
You cannot negate anything, if that anything does not exist !

So, to say there is no God, means, there is a God, but I negate it. If there was no God, thrn, I cannot negate it, because it does not exist !
We, in the west, think we are superior beings !
 
Observer said:
........and abortions,........... greed for money ............a sense of belonging here on earth forever
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Where in the Bible is abortion condemned or a fetus treated as a person? The fact that we have equal religious rights for others and the concept of a strict separation of church and state is proof that your religious beliefs, no matter how hypocritical, do not require others to obey your mythology because they have equal rights to believe otherwise and the state cannot legislate any religious belief or support one sect over the other.

For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confusing assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).
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Observer said:
Very simple!
You cannot negate anything if that anything does not exist !

So, to say there is no God, means, there is a God, but I negate it. If there was no God, then, I cannot negate it, because it does not exist !
We, in the west, think we are superior beings !
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Do I need to explain the logic and how the burden of proof applies to people who claim that a god exists? You are making a positive claim that a god exists, so the logical burden of proof is on you p to prove your claim to be true because in the absence of empirical evidence that can be tested by anyone of any religious belief then we revert to the stance that there is no god existing. As an example, I cannot prove that unicorns, leprechauns, and Nessie do not exist but that doesn't mean that they do exist by default.
I am a secular Humanist so who do I worship, except maybe my coffee maker? My cat thinks that I worship him, but I won't tell him the truth.
 
Observer said:
Very simple!
You cannot negate anything, if that anything does not exist !

So, to say there is no God, means, there is a God, but I negate it. If there was no God, thrn, I cannot negate it, because it does not exist !
We, in the west, think we are superior beings !
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What does that even mean ?

A Theist will say there is a god (or perhaps gods)
An Atheist will say he/she doesn't believe him/her

Where is the "negation" ?

Even if he/she said there indeed WAS no god, they negate it BY saying it/they do not exist
QED: An Atheist can have no god. Because you can't to profess to have something you publicly doubt exists.
 
Lisa said:
What exactly is that supposed to mean?

I am both an atheist and a market socialist.
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Do yu mean "market socialist" as in Keynesian "socializing demand" as opposed to the communist principle of socializing supply ?
 
Lisa said:
What exactly is that supposed to mean?

I am both an atheist and a market socialist.
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don't worry; just keep it to ethics.

i try not to complain about women being promiscuous in modern times, only when they lie to me and let me miss my turn.
 
danielpalos said:
don't worry; just keep it to ethics.

i try not to complain about women being promiscuous in modern times, only when they lie to me and let me miss my turn.
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Why is it that men are socially permitted to like sex but women are not supposed to enjoy sex?

You don't automatically get a turn because you have X-Y chromosomes. We are not required to put to just because you are male.
 
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