Impeachment/removal over Iranian strikes

[Risky Thicket]

You lack any command of history or the region or Iran and it's stated goals.

Fill us in with your genius. Make and validate your premise.

 

[Logophile]

A simple two-part question with four possible answers.

A: Were you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before he ordered the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

B: Are you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump after the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

Feel free to comment, especially if the strikes changed your mind.

I was not in favor of impeachment until the air strikes, then I certainly supported the idea as a solution to what I considered to be Trump's misplaced loyalty to a foreign nation over and above his own country. But I think now he's realized he's been played by Israel, and that his faith in the Israel government has been shaken, deservedly so. I think he'll find a way to resolve the situation that incorporates American interests and global peace. But if he militarily involves the US again on behalf of Israel, then of course, I'll support his impeachment. The Israeli government doesn't even care about its own people, never mind Americans

 

[jmotivator]

The War Powers Act of 1973 authorizes the president to commit troops to military action without congressional approval so long as the POTUS notifies them within 48 hours after commitment and the commitment is limited to less than 60 days.

The POTUS only needs congressional approval for commitments longer than 60 days.

In the age of Google there is really no excuse for Democrats to be this ignorant of the law.

 

[jaypatriot]

The War Powers Act of 1973 authorizes the president to commit troops to military action without congressional approval so long as the POTUS notifies them within 48 hours after commitment and the commitment is limited to less than 60 days.

The POTUS only needs congressional approval for commitments longer than 60 days.

In the age of Google there is really no excuse for Democrats to be this ignorant of the law.

Democrats want their followers to be ignorant of the law.
Similar to the Ayatollah expecting his followers to swallow the meager retaliation against an American military base as a victory for the Islamic Republic.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Prediction:

Trumptards will now SHRIEK MINDLESSLY IN SUPPORT of their War Prezzie's awesome attack on Iran!!

Another phony "war" for Pissrael is now A-OK in their book!!

 

[Captain Adverse]

I was not in favor of impeachment until the air strikes, then I certainly supported the idea as a solution to what I considered to be Trump's misplaced loyalty to a foreign nation over and above his own country. But I think now he's realized he's been played by Israel, and that his faith in the Israel government has been shaken, deservedly so. I think he'll find a way to resolve the situation that incorporates American interests and global peace. But if he militarily involves the US again on behalf of Israel, then of course, I'll support his impeachment. The Israeli government doesn't even care about its own people, never mind Americans

Trump did not strike the two nuclear plants and the underground nuclear "research" facility (read atomic bomb development center) in aid of Israel. He struck those targets, and ONLY those three targets in order to destroy them and thereby inhibit Iran's efforts to create nuclear weapons.

Prevention of nuclear proliferation among other nations has been a goal of the USA since the development and use of them by the USA. Especially when said nations give all indications that they are likely to use them (ex. Iran against Israel). Currently, aside from the USA, the 8 other nations that have nukes include Russia, China, France, U.K., India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Trump did not strike the two nuclear plants and the underground nuclear "research" facility (read atomic bomb development center) in aid of Israel.

Of course he did. Bibi is an ex Mossad chief, Trump ran a fake charity and thinks windmills cause cancer. The two aren't evenly matched in a room.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Prediction:

Trumptards will now SHRIEK MINDLESSLY IN SUPPORT of their War Prezzie's awesome attack on Iran!!

Another phony "war" for Pissrael is now A-OK in their book!!

One poster was telling me Trump is showing great restraint not sending troops. They want another war so bad. SO bad. I think they want him to be a wartime president.

 

[Lursa]

Since that wasn't the question, I'm not sure why you think the options in response to the actual question are insufficient.

That's the answer to A...I just took "before" farther back. My answer is still clear, yes? As is the one to B.

If they're unclear, please just ask.

 

[antiquity]

A simple two-part question with four possible answers.

A: Were you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before he ordered the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

B: Are you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump after the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

Feel free to comment, especially if the strikes changed your mind.

The question before and after is moot as the republicans control both houses. Any impeachment is dead in the water even before it will start.
And it seem John Fetterman is aligning himself up with the republicans and the Iran bombing issue and I am sure some democrats are on the fence and being silently, but don't want to suffer the raft of the whacked out left by coming out in favor of the bombing.

 

[Trumpetman]

A simple two-part question with four possible answers.

A: Were you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before he ordered the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

B: Are you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump after the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

Feel free to comment, especially if the strikes changed your mind.

Those Yes Yes votes are the true TDS sufferers.

 

[antiquity]

No. There is no legal or Constitutional basis for an impeachment over this.

True if there was Obama and Clinton would have impeached for their actions with approval of congress.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

The question before and after is moot as the republicans control both houses. Any impeachment is dead in the water even before it will start.
And it seem John Fetterman is aligning himself up with the republicans and the Iran bombing issue and I am sure some democrats are on the fence and being silently, but don't want to suffer the raft of the whacked out left by coming out in favor of the bombing.

I don't recall my question asking anything at all about the Republicans or John Fetterman or what is likely to happen or not.

If you don't feel like answering the question, why even bother posting at all?

 

[uptower]

I am not in favor of performative politics. Any effort to impeach Trump is utterly futile, and counterproductive. We will not have the votes to even get it assigned to a House Judiciary subcommittee for a hearing, let alone passed and sent to special impeachment committee, let alone scheduled for a full floor vote, let alone passed by the House, BecauseWE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES.

And then it will receive exactly the same treatment in the Senate the last articles of impeachment got under Mitch McConnell Because once again WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES.

This. Trump has manufactured so many crises but the voters just closed their eyes and took a gamble. If they come to their senses in the midterms maybe there's a chance to impeach but even then it seems unlikely without a decent number of Republicans on board.

 

[Desert Storm]

There have 125 millitary strikes since 1945 and none of them have had congressional approval.

Of course all those 125 strikes were ordered by both Democratic and Republican Presidents

 

[cpwill]

Trump is undeserving of being President.

The strikes are not worthy of removal.

 

[Noodlegawd]

A simple two-part question with four possible answers.

A: Were you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before he ordered the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

B: Are you in favor of impeachment and removal of Donald Trump after the airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities?

Feel free to comment, especially if the strikes changed your mind.

How many Democrats demanded impeachment of Biden for all the airstrikes he ordered without Congressional approval?

 

[JoeyJoystick]

I read a post on another message board and I apologize since no link was provided. Perhaps it is their own work. I simply don't know. Should these Presidents of the United States have been impeached for the following executive actions done without Congressional approval:

1801–1805: Jefferson – Deployed naval forces against Barbary pirates

1816: Madison – Ordered naval action against Algerian pirates

1824: Monroe – Sent naval forces to suppress Caribbean piracy

1846: Polk – Ordered troops to occupy disputed Mexico territory

1853–1854: Pierce – Deployed naval forces to Japan

1856: Pierce – Ordered naval intervention in Panama

1866: Johnson – Sent troops to Mexico

1898: McKinley – Ordered naval intervention in Hawaii/Philippines

1903: Roosevelt – Deployed troops to Panama

1906–1909: Roosevelt – Sent Marines to Cuba

1914: Wilson – Ordered occupation of Veracruz, Mexico

1915–1917: Wilson – Deployed troops to Haiti/Dominican Republic

1941: Roosevelt – Directed Navy to protect British shipping

1950–1953: Truman – Authorized troops to Korea

1962: Kennedy – Ordered naval quarantine of Cuba

1964–1973: Johnson – Escalated Vietnam War

1983: Reagan – Deployed Marines to Lebanon

1983: Reagan – Invaded Grenada

1986: Reagan – Ordered airstrikes on Libya

1989: Bush – Invaded Panama

1992–1994: Bush – Deployed troops to Somalia

1993–1994: Clinton – Expanded presence in Somalia

1994: Clinton – Ordered intervention in Haiti

1995: Clinton – Authorized airstrikes in Bosnia

1998: Clinton – Ordered airstrikes on Iraq

1998: Clinton – Launched missile strikes in Sudan/Afghanistan

1999: Clinton – Conducted airstrikes in Kosovo

2001–2021: Bush – Initiated action in Afghanistan

2003–2011: Bush – Invaded Iraq

2011: Obama – Authorized intervention in Libya

2014–2017: Obama – Ordered airstrikes on ISIS

2016–2017: Obama – Conducted airstrikes in Yemen

2017: Trump – Ordered missile strikes on Syria

2017–2021: Trump – Expanded airstrikes in Somalia

2020: Trump – Authorized drone strike on Soleimani

2021–2023: Biden – Ordered airstrikes in Syria

2021, 2024: Biden – Conducted airstrikes in Yemen

2024: Biden – Authorized strikes in Iraq/Syria

2025: Trump – Launched airstrikes on Iran

Hi Str8shooter,

I do not think what he has done is impeachable. I am guessing that you list would have very few, if any, events that would qualify for impeachment.

However, if this attack would escalate into a full blown war, than this may change the dynamics. Not sure if this would than be impeachable, but now definitely not.


Joey

 

[Str8shooter]

Hi Str8shooter,

I do not think what he has done is impeachable. I am guessing that you list would have very few, if any, events that would qualify for impeachment.

However, if this attack would escalate into a full blown war, than this may change the dynamics. Not sure if this would than be impeachable, but now definitely not.


Joey

Joey, I agree and would add that while I support his actions here, I would not support a war.

This might be a dumb comparison but here goes. When we moved to a bad place where I grew up, I was in a fight the first day and several fights that week. I was in 6th grade at the time and was fair game for just about anyone older than me. It became clear to me pretty quickly what I had to do but I would cry before doing it. It didn't take long for all of those "gang members" to know what was going to happen when I stopped crying. I had decided that in order for me to protect my brother and sister, I had to stop caring about winning or even living. I had to go all out. It took one major fight with one of the "baddest" kids in the neighborhood to stop most of the danger to my brother and sister. I put that kid in the hospital when no one would think that I stood a chance against him. In short, I see that as analogous to what Trump has done. I hope that Iran gets the message.

 

[JoeyJoystick]

Joey, I agree and would add that while I support his actions here, I would not support a war.

This might be a dumb comparison but here goes. When we moved to a bad place where I grew up, I was in a fight the first day and several fights that week. I was in 6th grade at the time and was fair game for just about anyone older than me. It became clear to me pretty quickly what I had to do but I would cry before doing it. It didn't take long for all of those "gang members" to know what was going to happen when I stopped crying. I had decided that in order for me to protect my brother and sister, I had to stop caring about winning or even living. I had to go all out. It took one major fight with one of the "baddest" kids in the neighborhood to stop most of the danger to my brother and sister. I put that kid in the hospital when no one would think that I stood a chance against him. In short, I see that as analogous to what Trump has done. I hope that Iran gets the message.

Hi Str9shooter,

Love the comparison. I think it applies 100%. It's got nothing to do with party affiliation if you ask me.

A warning that by the way, also echoes loudly in Being and the Kremlin I would guess, because they also take him as a sissy. And that may even be the most important message here, if you ask me. And in this particular case, also in Israel. Netanyahu quickly called back his planes is my understanding, though I have not dug into this to be honest

Joey