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If he refuses to cooperate with the investigation they can take him in. It's called "obstruction" and every state I know of has a statute covering it.
Did they have an employee's sign only where he was in clear view?
Then they should have taken him in. Yes he refused to show them ID, but that doesn't warrant the two cops ganging up on and assaulting him.
To simple lolHow not to get tased:
1: don't act like a douche to cops
2: If asked for ID, show it
Right at the beginning the officer said something like "what happened back there". So what happened back there? What occured prior to the video? What prompted this guy to start up his camera?Minnesota Taser video: Christopher Lollie of St. Paul Tased in front of children.
Ummm... I dont get how people could just stand around and let a cop do that. People are ****in cowards. These 2 cops just 2v1'd a man for no reason. That means you can help the man and fight the cops until they hit the ground, pacify them. Who gives a **** if th ey have a badge if they break the law they get dealt with just like any other criminal. If a random guy and a girl assualt you in the street you would be allowed to beat the crap out of them until you are safe. Give those same 2 people a badge and now they have a pass to be ignoble?
Assuming of course he did nothing wrong.
Then they should have taken him in. Yes he refused to show them ID, but that doesn't warrant the two cops ganging up on and assaulting him.
Well, asking politely wasn't working and neither was asking impolitely so at some point I guess the cops just figured they were done asking
Mr. Lollie had every right to keep speaking his mind but he didn't have the right to keep obstructing the officers in their job.
He was "fleeing on foot". Anyone can see that from the video. When stopped by cop you cannot just walk away. You do not have the right to do that. You have to ask "am I free to go". If the cop says yes *then* you can walk away. If the cop says no then you are being detained, and while detained yes you do have to give your legal name and date of birth.St. Paul police Chief Tom Smith says officers became violent with Lollie because they "believed he might either run or fight with them
so they became violent...because he may run away?.. or because he may fight them......
putting the cart before the horse there.
Yeah, the whole "because I'm black" thing is lame. Black people need to get over it already.They could have found out who he was and what he was doing if he'd simply told them but instead he chose to go off on a "because I'm black" rant. He made his own bed in this one and the more I read about it the less sympathy I have for him.
So they decided that, instead of following procedure and taking him in, that they were going to gang up on him and assault him. And this is a quality within law enforcement that you are ok with?
That's not the issue at hand here. You stated that the officers were well within their right to arrest him for obstruction. For the sake of argument I will take your word on that. If that is the case, then that's what they should have done. Assaulting the man was unnecessary.
They can detain you, but considering he was going to be sitting there for a while they could have easily found out who he was without doing anything towards him.
Yeah, the whole "because I'm black" thing is lame. Black people need to get over it already.
But if we know anything, we know that cops love their toys. What good is a taser if you can't have some fun with it now and again?
Fun fact: the Army markets itself to women by promoting financhial security in the form of a reguler pay check, insurance and verious benifits. The Army markets itself to men by promoting all the cool toys they'll get to play with such as MRAPS, machienguns, night-vision etc.But if we know anything, we know that cops love their toys. What good is a taser if you can't have some fun with it now and again?
Why do you think THAT incident would have ended any differently had he been white? Hell we have 20 years of COPS episodes to draw from. Stupid white people that try to tell cops they know their rights end up with the same consequences as stupid black people.How exactly do they get over being black and knowing that because they're black, cops automatically assume they've done something wrong?
The same way I got over being White: replace race with a better Master Class. I chose religion, I identify as a christian before anything else. Others choose nationality and identify as American first, or being a father/mother or husband/wife, etc.How exactly do they get over being black and knowing that because they're black, cops automatically assume they've done something wrong?
I see a tasing in your future.
Why is that?
How exactly do they get over being black and knowing that because they're black, cops automatically assume they've done something wrong?
He was being uncooperative and combative. All he had to do was say that he wanted a lawyer and put his hands behind his back. If he was in the right and the cops were in the wrong he could then sue them for false arrest or whatever else he wanted to. Instead of doing that he chose to be belligerent. His choice.
Did they have an employee's sign only where he was in clear view?
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