I'm Enjoying Watching Silent Audit Videos on YouTube

[Loulit01]

In case you don't know, and many people don't, it's legal to film or take pics of anything you can see from a public place. You can stand on a public sidewalk and legally film banks, police stations, correctional facilities, ICE detention centers, military installations, anything. If you're standing in a public space, nothing and no one you can see has an expectation of privacy. You can stand there and film as long as you want. You don't need anyone's permission to film them if they can be seen from a public space. You can film anyone (including you, yes you can be filmed), for any reason or none, without their permission.

Tough to believe? Fact.

I wouldn't do it on a beach. But that's just because I have good manners and I'd get punched in the face. But other than that...

Anyway, there are people who go around filming just to prove the point. Which may make them annoying jerks, but they have the legal right to do it.

Some of these guys do it by not saying a word to anyone, including cops.

 

[multivita-man]

Not really a fan of people who provoke encounters with law enforcement for shits and giggles. I mean, you have the right to do it. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

[Loulit01]

Not really a fan of people who provoke encounters with law enforcement for shits and giggles. I mean, you have the right to do it. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Well, the way this country is going, I think it's good that cops learn that can't run people off who aren't committing a crime. That they can't demand ID just because someone called and cast suspicion. Suspicion isn't a crime. Suspicion of what? They must articulate a crime before they can demand ID. That's the law.

You should be able to walk down the street without ID on you. You should be able to film anything you can see without being harassed. We're drifting ever farther toward an authoritarian state.

There is no provocation if the police understand and follow the law. They should show up and explain to everyone who called to complain, that no crime is being committed. And then go back to work. There would be no confrontations if the police followed the law.

 

[gman]

Well, the way this country is going, I think it's good that cops learn that can't run people off who aren't committing a crime. That they can't demand ID just because someone called and cast suspicion. Suspicion isn't a crime. Suspicion of what? They must articulate a crime before they can demand ID. That's the law.

You should be able to walk down the street without ID on you. You should be able to film anything you can see without being harassed. We're drifting ever farther toward an authoritarian state.

There is no provocation if the police understand and follow the law. They should show up and explain to everyone who called to complain, that no crime is being committed. And then go back to work. There would be no confrontations if the police followed the law.

People who enjoy being a jerk by passively provoking others is nothing new. Paparazzi keep walking a fine line including invading a person’s personal space.

 

[Loulit01]

People who enjoy being a jerk by passively provoking others is nothing new. Paparazzi keep walking a fine line including invading a person’s personal space.

 

[gman]

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Ouch

 

[Peter]

Many US police seem to have this idea that simply not wanting to talk to them is reason enough for them to detain you.

It isn't.

 

[Loulit01]

Many US police seem to have this idea that simply not wanting to talk to them is reason enough for them to detain you.

It isn't.

You're behaving suspiciously, I need to see your ID.

Uh. No you don't.

 

[Juin]

Not really a fan of people who provoke encounters with law enforcement for shits and giggles. I mean, you have the right to do it. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

I find it rather distasteful. On the level of cowardice. I won't be surprised if cowards like that are not the first to dial 911 to have same cops endanger themselves protecting them

 

[Loulit01]

I find it rather distasteful. On the level of cowardice. I won't be surprised if cowards like that are not the first to dial 911 to have same cops endanger themselves protecting them

What are these cowards afraid of?

 

[Juin]

People who enjoy being a jerk by passively provoking others is nothing new. Paparazzi keep walking a fine line including invading a person’s personal space.

Paparazzi! That's the disgust I have for such fakes. They are as disgusting as pimps

 

[Loulit01]

I find it rather distasteful. On the level of cowardice. I won't be surprised if cowards like that are not the first to dial 911 to have same cops endanger themselves protecting them

The right feels it has this God given right to cast aspersions and call names with zero to back it up. Why are you calling these people cowards? What do you think they're afraid of?

Probably wasting my time again.

 

[WillyPete]

Well, the way this country is going, I think it's good that cops learn that can't run people off who aren't committing a crime. That they can't demand ID just because someone called and cast suspicion. Suspicion isn't a crime. Suspicion of what? They must articulate a crime before they can demand ID. That's the law.

I think if you want to train police officers in anything, you should apply for a job at the police academy.

In many circumstances, if they have a lawful reason, they are required to ID a person, and if they refuse, they will be arrested and held until they are ID'd.

They don't need to articulate the details to the subject's satisfaction on the spot. They only need to be able to do so in court.

That I suppose is why I find that behavior so offensive. These people presume to know better than a police officers and judges, but few enough have finished high school.

You should be able to walk down the street without ID on you. You should be able to film anything you can see without being harassed. We're drifting ever farther toward an authoritarian state.

Yeah, but that's not what those videos show, in my experience. They are typically standing around outside these places for hours at a time, frequently entering and leaving the private areas, actively trying to video and provoke the staff, making a scene. They very frequently have a grudge against whatever agency or people that work there, and will be happy to tell the police all about how the staff is acting criminally.

If they were just walking by filming in public, none of that would be happening.

There is no provocation if the police understand and follow the law. They should show up and explain to everyone who called to complain, that no crime is being committed. And then go back to work. There would be no confrontations if the police followed the law.

If someone calls in a suspicious person, it's not offensive when the police come out to give them a sniff. That's their job.

And when a suspicious person doesn't turn out to be a criminal, that's not any sort of loss for the police.

 

[Peter]

I think if you want to train police officers in anything, you should apply for a job at the police academy.

In many circumstances, if they have a lawful reason, they are required to ID a person, and if they refuse, they will be arrested and held until they are ID'd.

They don't need to articulate the details to the subject's satisfaction on the spot. They only need to be able to do so in court.

That I suppose is why I find that behavior so offensive. These people presume to know better than a police officers and judges, but few enough have finished high school.




Yeah, but that's not what those videos show, in my experience. They are typically standing around outside these places for hours at a time, frequently entering and leaving the private areas, actively trying to video and provoke the staff, making a scene. They very frequently have a grudge against whatever agency or people that work there, and will be happy to tell the police all about how the staff is acting criminally.

If they were just walking by filming in public, none of that would be happening.




If someone calls in a suspicious person, it's not offensive when the police come out to give them a sniff. That's their job.

And when a suspicious person doesn't turn out to be a criminal, that's not any sort of loss for the police.

So, what you're saying is that someone just out for a walk can be arrested for simply not having ID.
I go out for walks all the time without ID.
Would I be liable to arrest in the US just for doing that?

 

[ASHES]

I like HYO. And The Battousai. A lot of others are pretty meh, and some are really terrible at it and of course there are assholes giving all of them a bad name.